Ambulances set on fire
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sparta6

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4,494 posts

123 months

This green and pleasant land

It really is getting worse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czj1m8xpk14t

butchstewie

64,326 posts

233 months

That is absolutely disgusting.

I believe there is CCTV but it didn't show much.

Fingers crossed there may be enough in the area to lead to the scumbags who did this.

TriumphStag3.0V8

5,111 posts

104 months

Unbelievable! Glad no one was hurt

J4CKO

45,918 posts

223 months

All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?

Tommo87

5,379 posts

136 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
I am also sure one of the usual -beans will be along soon to justify this.


butchstewie

64,326 posts

233 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
Even if some people are twisted enough to see it as "striking a blow" you wouldn't target ambulances.

On why they have their own ambulances "Hatzolah, which owns the ambulances, is a large non-profit volunteer organisation that provides Jewish people with emergency medicine and transport to hospitals for free."

I heard a rabbi on the news this morning saying they are used for all sorts of other communities.

The people who did this are just criminal thugs.

Countdown

47,349 posts

219 months

butchstewie said:
That is absolutely disgusting.

Fingers crossed there may be enough in the area to lead to the scumbags who did this.
+1

What a bunch of cretins.

Graveworm

9,123 posts

94 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
had never heard of them as there be Dragons that far North in London - but the BBC report
"Non-profit, volunteer organisation established in 1979 to respond to emergency medical situations and provide transport in the North London community. This is done at no cost... it responds to thousand of emergencies every year, "from minor injuries to life-threatening conditions", working alongside hospitals in the local area.

It also works collaboratively with national emergency services, such as the London Ambulance Service, London Fire Brigade, Helicopter Emergency Medical Service and the Metropolitan Police " It says this is regardless of whether they are Jews or non Jews.

Either way, whatever they did the NHS Ambulances will need to pick up the slack to the detriment of everyone. Shocking.

pavarotti1980

6,041 posts

107 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
In areas with large Jewish communities they also turn up to emergency work too as I think families contact them as well as 999. Not sure on their actual ability to do anything other than first aiders

g4ry13

20,719 posts

278 months

This is really disgusting. I hope they track down the culprits although suspect they will get away with it.

Hatzolah is a really good service run by volunteers. They have helped my parents out in the past and got them to hospital when the national service would have taken over an hour to do the same job.

In addition, they will help anyone regardless of their religion. It's not just a service for Jewish people.

g4ry13

20,719 posts

278 months

pavarotti1980 said:
J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
In areas with large Jewish communities they also turn up to emergency work too as I think families contact them as well as 999. Not sure on their actual ability to do anything other than first aiders
There are doctors who volunteer as well for the service. It depends on what call comes in and who is available.

s1962a

7,386 posts

185 months

g4ry13 said:
This is really disgusting. I hope they track down the culprits although suspect they will get away with it.

Hatzolah is a really good service run by volunteers. They have helped my parents out in the past and got them to hospital when the national service would have taken over an hour to do the same job.

In addition, they will help anyone regardless of their religion. It's not just a service for Jewish people.
Hope they find these lowlifes and punish them. Absolutely senseless.

pavarotti1980

6,041 posts

107 months

g4ry13 said:
There are doctors who volunteer as well for the service. It depends on what call comes in and who is available.
Definitely not the ones in Gateshead. PTS and first aid only. Depends how they are registered with the CQC as to what is delivered

Solocle

3,998 posts

107 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
Why would a Christian charity own its own ambulances? It's the same idea. And they definitely can do emergency work if required, instead of waiting an hour for an NHS one.


A photo from Hatzalah's Israeli branch, but it pretty well disspells the crazy rhetoric targetting them.

J4CKO

45,918 posts

223 months

Solocle said:
J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
Why would a Christian charity own its own ambulances? It's the same idea. And they definitely can do emergency work if required, instead of waiting an hour for an NHS one.


A photo from Hatzalah's Israeli branch, but it pretty well disspells the crazy rhetoric targetting them.
Thats why I asked, didnt think about ST Johns ambulance but it makes sense in that context.




Gareth79

8,731 posts

269 months

J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
There are dozens (probably hundreds) of private ambulance services in the country. Most are for-profit and do patient transfers, event work etc, but some are charities like Hatzola. All are legally permitted to transport patients on the road on blue lights if required.

St John Ambulance (guess what religion they are affiliated with) provide 999 paramedic response services in some areas, under NHS contract.

Digga

46,391 posts

306 months

J4CKO said:
Solocle said:
J4CKO said:
All so pointless, sure someone thinks they are striking a blow for something, as it is they have just destroyed hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of what is medical equipment, bizarre.

Why would a Jewish charity have its own ambulances ? I always thought ambulances were all owned and operated by the NHS as a whole ? guessing they are more for getting elderly folk to hospital and the like rather than front line emergency work ?
Why would a Christian charity own its own ambulances? It's the same idea. And they definitely can do emergency work if required, instead of waiting an hour for an NHS one.


A photo from Hatzalah's Israeli branch, but it pretty well disspells the crazy rhetoric targetting them.
Thats why I asked, didnt think about ST Johns ambulance but it makes sense in that context.
Same also that if you donate to the Red Cross, your money is also being used to help the Red Crescent too. They work together.

crofty1984

16,887 posts

227 months

I assumed they were a bit like St John's ambulance. Who the fk thinks it's a good idea to torch any ambulance for any reason?

I guess the answer's in the question. I imagine "thinks" is a little above and beyond for some.

Digga

46,391 posts

306 months

Countdown said:
butchstewie said:
That is absolutely disgusting.

Fingers crossed there may be enough in the area to lead to the scumbags who did this.
+1

What a bunch of cretins.
+1 more.

As I've said elsewhere, whoever did this, may their balls turn square and fester at the edges. Mindless, misanthropic morons.

_Rodders_

1,092 posts

42 months

Incredibly sad.

Targeting ambulances is beyond contempt.