British Summer Time. Again

Poll: British Summer Time. Again

Total Members Polled: 302

Add an hour and stay there permanently : 34%
Why the hell do we do this twice a year!: 29%
Add two hours and stay there permanently : 7%
I think it's fine as it is going forward/back: 29%
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Discussion

Pitre

Original Poster:

5,936 posts

259 months

Saturday 28th March
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No justifications needed.

Personally I think we should add two hours, permanently. Anyone who doesn't like it can buy a torch!

Scotty2

1,455 posts

291 months

Saturday 28th March
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Add 1/2 hr including Europe, then leave it. Best of both worlds?

No ideas for a name

3,037 posts

111 months

Saturday 28th March
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Why no vote for leave it at GMT all year.
We are on the Meridian, its is GMT all year, why add an hour?


cliffords

3,858 posts

48 months

Saturday 28th March
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I think we should add 1 hour and 21 mins and not move it again.

Panamax

8,744 posts

59 months

Saturday 28th March
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QUESTION: Why do clocks change more or less ON the spring equinox but then stay on summer time until a month AFTER the autumn equinox - i.e. 5 months of winter time and 7 months of summer time?

It would IMO make massively more sense for clocks to change at the end of February, balancing up the daylight hours.

Panamax

8,744 posts

59 months

Saturday 28th March
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Factoid. What's "Mean" about Greenwich Mean Time?

Earth’s orbit is not a perfect circle and its axis is tilted, so time measured by a sundial varies slightly throughout the year and days aren't all exactly 24 hours. "Mean" time is a calculated average of solar time, allowing clocks to keep the same time every day.

JoshSm

4,024 posts

62 months

Saturday 28th March
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No ideas for a name said:
Why no vote for leave it at GMT all year.
We are on the Meridian, its is GMT all year, why add an hour?
Apparently stupid people either want to live in a different timezone or can't cope with sticking with GMT and just shifting when they do things.

The UK is physically located at GMT, and mostly located west of the meridian, yet some apparently want to join a more southern part of Europe in pretending they're in Paris as some sort of solidarity?

What kind of idiots are so beholden to what the clock says that they can't just shift their schedule if they need to instead of pretending by changing the clock?

Panamax

8,744 posts

59 months

Saturday 28th March
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cliffords said:
I think we should add 1 hour and 21 mins and not move it again.
Go to India, they run with time 30 minutes offset from most other places. Bizarrely, local time is best converted to UK time by wearing a rotary dial watch upside down. Because India is exactly 5 hours and 30 minutes ahead of GMT, flipping the watch 180° reorients the hour and minute hands to roughly display the corresponding time in London.

Bill

57,814 posts

280 months

Saturday 28th March
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No ideas for a name said:
Why no vote for leave it at GMT all year.
We are on the Meridian, its is GMT all year, why add an hour?
2nd option, no??

Panamax

8,744 posts

59 months

Saturday 28th March
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JoshSm said:
The UK is physically located at GMT, and mostly located west of the meridian, yet some apparently want to join a more southern part of Europe in pretending they're in Paris as some sort of solidarity?
Check out Portugal - same time as UK.

The Irish, of course, call theirs Irish Standard Time and Irish Summer Time. Cross the border from Northern Ireland and the name changes but the time doesn't. Brilliant.

JoshSm

4,024 posts

62 months

Saturday 28th March
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Panamax said:
JoshSm said:
The UK is physically located at GMT, and mostly located west of the meridian, yet some apparently want to join a more southern part of Europe in pretending they're in Paris as some sort of solidarity?
Check out Portugal - same time as UK.

The Irish, of course, call theirs Irish Standard Time and Irish Summer Time. Cross the border from Northern Ireland and the name changes but the time doesn't. Brilliant.
Spain, GMT+1 (aka Central European Standard Time) yet definitely not in that zone. Guess the Portuguese being even further west just couldn't (or wouldn't) pretend that much.

jmn

1,152 posts

305 months

Saturday 28th March
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&amp...

There have been attempts to do away with it in the past.

ExBoringVolvoDriver

11,501 posts

68 months

Saturday 28th March
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Panamax said:
JoshSm said:
The UK is physically located at GMT, and mostly located west of the meridian, yet some apparently want to join a more southern part of Europe in pretending they're in Paris as some sort of solidarity?
Check out Portugal - same time as UK.

The Irish, of course, call theirs Irish Standard Time and Irish Summer Time. Cross the border from Northern Ireland and the name changes but the time doesn't. Brilliant.
Arguably Spain should be on GMT given where the Meridian line passes through and possibly Paris as well!

Smollet

15,620 posts

215 months

Saturday 28th March
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jmn said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&amp...

There have been attempts to do away with it in the past.
And dropped fairly quickly. Leave it be.

Snow and Rocks

3,275 posts

52 months

Saturday 28th March
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JoshSm said:
Apparently stupid people either want to live in a different timezone or can't cope with sticking with GMT and just shifting when they do things.

The UK is physically located at GMT, and mostly located west of the meridian, yet some apparently want to join a more southern part of Europe in pretending they're in Paris as some sort of solidarity?

What kind of idiots are so beholden to what the clock says that they can't just shift their schedule if they need to instead of pretending by changing the clock?
I think describing most people with a job as idiots is a bit much maybe?

Thankfully, I'm free to organise my day as I please but when I was office based and had to stick to office hours it was always great to suddenly have the ability to do things in daylight after work.

Not sure what being being able to go out on my bike or walk the dog without a head torch has to do with pretending I'm in Paris either.

gregs656

12,164 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th March
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No ideas for a name said:
Why no vote for leave it at GMT all year.
We are on the Meridian, its is GMT all year, why add an hour?
Standardised time zones are a man made concept created to serve our needs.

Daylight savings time is the same deal.

What ever comes next (assuming it does change at some point) will be the same.

Downward

5,477 posts

128 months

Saturday 28th March
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Scotland and the mornings not being light till after school opens are the issue

CoolHands

22,685 posts

220 months

Saturday 28th March
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I like having it change.

Bill

57,814 posts

280 months

Saturday 28th March
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gregs656 said:
Standardised time zones are a man made concept created to serve our needs.

Daylight savings time is the same deal.

What ever comes next (assuming it does change at some point) will be the same.
Originally the railway's need AIUI. Standardised time helps the world function. BST, not so much.

768

19,646 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th March
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No ideas for a name said:
Why no vote for leave it at GMT all year.
We are on the Meridian, its is GMT all year, why add an hour?
We should move GMT by 27 minutes and tell everyone else to sort themselves out.