Europe has 'maybe six weeks of jet fuel left'
Europe has 'maybe six weeks of jet fuel left'
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s1962a

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7,685 posts

190 months

Friday 17th April
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjw2kz0l22o

Why can't we just buy American or Russian fuel for now till this all gets sorted out? Is that too simple?

Evanivitch

26,235 posts

150 months

Friday 17th April
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s1962a said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjw2kz0l22o

Why can't we just buy American or Russian fuel for now till this all gets sorted out? Is that too simple?
Russia doesn't have a big jet aviation refinery base.

USA and China do, but will both be very protective of their existing supplies and have limited ability to scale to meet European demand.

Steve vRS

5,379 posts

269 months

Friday 17th April
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A thread here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... on it saying that don't panic, the airliners will bring it here from abroad.


clarkey

1,426 posts

312 months

Friday 17th April
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It's a perfect first world problem and will be self-rationing as airlines put the cost of flights up. It's clearly bad, but it's not life-threatening.
Unlike the shortage of fertiliser which is a potential problem for the whole world, especially the poorest. The issue with fertiliser is that it will affect crop yields, and food availability, well after the crazy orange one stops what he's doing.

Steve vRS

5,379 posts

269 months

Friday 17th April
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clarkey said:
It's a perfect first world problem and will be self-rationing as airlines put the cost of flights up. It's clearly bad, but it's not life-threatening.
Unlike the shortage of fertiliser which is a potential problem for the whole world, especially the poorest. The issue with fertiliser is that it will affect crop yields, and food availability, well after the crazy orange one stops what he's doing.
Shame we allowed the last 2 ammonia plants to close in the UK and we are down to one fertiliser plant. But hey, our CO2 emissions have dropped.

S600BSB

8,107 posts

134 months

Friday 17th April
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Take the train instead of flying for short haul? I do Paris to Geneva regularly on the tgv - 3hrs and a much better experience.

Mrr T

15,274 posts

293 months

Friday 17th April
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S600BSB said:
Take the train instead of flying for short haul? I do Paris to Geneva regularly on the tgv - 3hrs and a much better experience.
I do not go back to the UK often but Brasov to Luton is 4hr. Just checked for fun. To London by train 32 1/2hrs with 5 changes.

CT05 Nose Cone

26,011 posts

255 months

Friday 17th April
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Worrying news, how are politicians and celebrities supposed to get to climate conferences now?

vikingaero

13,002 posts

197 months

Friday 17th April
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CT05 Nose Cone said:
Worrying news, how are politicians and celebrities supposed to get to climate conferences now?
Or Z-elebrities such as St. Greta of Thunberger. She doesn't do sail ships anymore.

Lotobear

8,993 posts

156 months

Friday 17th April
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Oh dear the chattering classes 2026 holibobs are under threat, that'll never do

How will Polly get to Tuscany hehe

Gary29

5,157 posts

127 months

Friday 17th April
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Cancel the F1 season, sort the rules out and resume in '27

S600BSB

8,107 posts

134 months

Friday 17th April
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Lotobear said:
Oh dear the chattering classes 2026 holibobs are under threat, that'll never do

How will Polly get to Tuscany hehe
Sail into Livorno obvs.

p1stonhead

29,963 posts

195 months

Friday 17th April
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Gary29 said:
Cancel the F1 season, sort the rules out and resume in '27
Obviously I dont want this, but objectively, motorsport does seem kind of mad to keep going if they are actually going to run out of fuel for airlines.

Camoradi

4,877 posts

284 months

Friday 17th April
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Am I allowed to feel smug at having booked the Plymouth to Santander ferry to get to my holidays in the Basque country in 2 months time?

I may not feel so smug as I'm vomit over the side in the Bay of Biscay a few days before doing an Ironman. hehe

Sway

34,989 posts

222 months

Friday 17th April
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S600BSB said:
Take the train instead of flying for short haul? I do Paris to Geneva regularly on the tgv - 3hrs and a much better experience.
Simply impractical for me. Fortunately, not my problem if prices go up.

Earthdweller

18,958 posts

154 months

Friday 17th April
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Camoradi said:
Am I allowed to feel smug at having booked the Plymouth to Santander ferry to get to my holidays in the Basque country in 2 months time?

I may not feel so smug as I'm vomit over the side in the Bay of Biscay a few days before doing an Ironman. hehe
Likewise I have a ferry booking from Portsmouth to Spain and back .. let's hope they have enough fuel themselves before getting too smug laugh

menousername

2,451 posts

170 months

Friday 17th April
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Take some paddles with you

Earthdweller

18,958 posts

154 months

Friday 17th April
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Simon Calder ( travel guru ) on the radio this morning was saying only 23 % of UK aviation fuel comes from the gulf

He said he though it would lead to flight consolidation and gave an example of easyJet having 8 flights a day from Luton to Nice ( iirc) and said it would likely mean they'd only fly 6 and all passengers likely to be accommodated on the 6 flights

He said more issues for people looking to book last minute holidays as availability might be restricted due to reduction in seat numbers

But overall he didn't seem that concerned

Earthdweller

18,958 posts

154 months

Friday 17th April
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menousername said:
Take some paddles with you
Bobbing about in biscay doesn't sound fun smile

Biker 1

8,532 posts

147 months

Friday 17th April
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I've booked a sailing trip this summer - hopefully there'll be enough wind so I don't need the engine....