That'll Burnham

[hondajack85]

Is there a Andy Burnham prospective PM thread?
What does the discredited Josh Simons expect in return?

[Hippea]

The seat doesn’t exactly have the greatest Labour margin, I’d imagine Reform will go in hard on the campaign

[AbbeyNormal]

Cant see a northerner being elected as PM

[borcy]

AbbeyNormal said:

Cant see a northerner being elected as PM

Why not?

[bstb3]

Hippea said:

The seat doesn t exactly have the greatest Labour margin, I d imagine Reform will go in hard on the campaign

Quite. Interesting to see what the Greens do also, because if they turn up and split the already dwindled labour vote...

Though I assume if Burnham were to be returned, and then takes the leadership and becomes PM, there would be a GE shortly after anyway - since a significant move away from the centrist (ish) vote that Labour got in the last GE would really require a new mandate. Surely they wouldn't just try some anti-democratic swing away without standing up to the public scrutiny...

[LimmerickLad]

Wonder if the Tories will do a deal with reform and stand aside?

[Patio]

Hippea said:

The seat doesn t exactly have the greatest Labour margin, I d imagine Reform will go in hard on the campaign

Heard 23 out of 24 councilors went to reform at local elections last week there and only a 5k labour majority

Body bags might lose his deposit ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Yahonza]

Not exactly a safe seat now. I can see Reform taking it and Labour's disarray continuing, as they scrabble around trying to undermine SKS power base.

[juice]

Sorry to be thick, but why is he called Body Bags ?

[_Rodders_]

bstb3 said:

Hippea said:

The seat doesn t exactly have the greatest Labour margin, I d imagine Reform will go in hard on the campaign

Quite. Interesting to see what the Greens do also, because if they turn up and split the already dwindled labour vote...

Though I assume if Burnham were to be returned, and then takes the leadership and becomes PM, there would be a GE shortly after anyway - since a significant move away from the centrist (ish) vote that Labour got in the last GE would really require a new mandate. Surely they wouldn't just try some anti-democratic swing away without standing up to the public scrutiny...

You know the answer.

We didn't get a say when Truss lurched to the right.

[98elise]

AbbeyNormal said:

Cant see a northerner being elected as PM

Why? I've never really given any thought as to where a party leader is from. Also we don't actually elect PM's, and in this case it wouldn't be a GE just a by-election plus a leadership challenge.

[AbbeyNormal]

borcy said:

AbbeyNormal said:

Cant see a northerner being elected as PM

Why not?

Have we ever had an elected Northern PM?

[AbbeyNormal]

98elise said:

AbbeyNormal said:

Cant see a northerner being elected as PM

Why? I've never really given any thought as to where a party leader is from. Also we don't actually elect PM's, and in this case it wouldn't be a GE just a by-election plus a leadership challenge.

Talking about a general election. In 1147 days

[valiant]

That seat seems a bit…risky.

[speedking31]

juice said:

Sorry to be thick, but why is he called Body Bags ?

The moniker stems from his tenure as the UK Health Secretary from 2009 to 2010. It specifically refers to his handling of the Mid Staffordshire NHS scandal, a major controversy involving systemic hospital failures, severe patient neglect, and elevated mortality rates at Stafford Hospital.

Is your AI broken?

[alangla]

AbbeyNormal said:

Have we ever had an elected Northern PM?

Depends how you define “Northern” - Blair and Sunak represented northern seats, Harold Wilson was from Huddersfield. I’ve not gone any further back than that.

[isaldiri]

valiant said:

That seat seems a bit risky.

it's the safest one he could bribe persuade someone to step aside for him..... it's that or....... nothing else I suppose.

[otolith]

AbbeyNormal said:

Have we ever had an elected Northern PM?

Keir Starmer Southwark, London
Rishi Sunak Southampton, Hampshire
Liz Truss Oxford, Oxfordshire
Boris Johnson New York City, New York
Theresa May Eastbourne, East Sussex
David Cameron Marylebone, London
Gordon Brown Giffnock, Renfrewshire
Tony Blair Edinburgh, Midlothian
John Major St Helier, Surrey
Margaret Thatcher Grantham, Lincolnshire
James Callaghan Portsmouth, Hampshire
Edward Heath Broadstairs, Kent
Harold Wilson Huddersfield, West Riding of Yorkshire
Alec Douglas-Home Mayfair, London
Harold Macmillan Belgravia, London
Anthony Eden Windlestone Hall, County Durham
Clement Attlee Putney, Surrey
Winston Churchill Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire
Neville Chamberlain Edgbaston, Birmingham
Stanley Baldwin Bewdley, Worcestershire
Ramsay MacDonald Lossiemouth, Morayshire
Bonar Law Rexton, Kent County
David Lloyd George Chorlton-on-Medlock, Lancashire,
H. H. Asquith Morley, West Riding of Yorkshire
Henry Campbell-Bannerman Kelvinside, Glasgow
Arthur Balfour Whittingehame, East Lothian
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil Hatfield, Hertfordshire
Archibald Primrose Mayfair, Middlesex
William Ewart Gladstone Liverpool, Lancashire
Benjamin Disraeli Bloomsbury, Middlesex
Edward Smith-Stanley Knowsley Hall, Knowsley, Lancashire
John Russell Mayfair, Middlesex
Henry John Temple, Lord Palmerston Westminster, Middlesex
George Hamilton Gordon Edinburgh, Midlothian
Robert Peel Bury, Lancashire
William Lamb London
Charles Grey Fallodon, Northumberland
Arthur Wellesley Dublin, County Dublin
Frederick Robinson Skelton-on-Ure, Yorkshire
George Canning Marylebone, London
Robert Jenkinson London
Spencer Perceval Mayfair, London
William Cavendish-Bentinck Bulstrode Park, Buckinghamshire
William Grenville Wotton, Buckinghamshire
William Pitt Hayes, Kent
Henry Addington Holborn, London
William Petty Dublin, County Dublin
Frederick North Piccadilly, London
Augustus FitzRoy London
William Pitt Westminster, London
Charles Watson-Wentworth Wentworth, South Yorkshire
George Grenville Wotton, Buckinghamshire
John Stuart Parliament Square, Edinburgh
William Cavendish Hardwicke, Stroud
Thomas Pelham-Holles London
Henry Pelham Laughton, Sussex
Spencer Compton Compton Wynyates, Warwickshire
Robert Walpole Houghton Hall, Norfolk

[Murph7355]

alangla said:

AbbeyNormal said:

Have we ever had an elected Northern PM?

Depends how you define Northern - Blair and Sunak represented northern seats, Harold Wilson was from Huddersfield. I ve not gone any further back than that.

There have been quite a few from North of the Watford Gap (the full place or the services).

(Where they were from is little barometer for success, though the last half a dozen Southerners have hardly done the country proud, by and large).

[NuckyThompson]

hondajack85 said:

Is there a Andy Burnham prospective PM thread?
What does the discredited Josh Simons expect in return?

That was my thinking why does a 32 year old married man with a couple of kids step down from a £100k a year job. Even if Burnham has promised him a cushy role it's still a risk as Burnham migh5 lose