Russian warship fired warning shots near yacht in Channel
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Opps, things just got a little hot,
"The Ministry of Defence is investigating reports a Russian warship fired warning shots near a UK-registered yacht in the English Channel.
The incident, which happened at around 11.40am on Tuesday between the Isle of Wight and Normandy, is understood to have involved the Russian frigate Admiral Grigorovich, the Press Association news agency reported."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20yzm84r7lo
"The Ministry of Defence is investigating reports a Russian warship fired warning shots near a UK-registered yacht in the English Channel.
The incident, which happened at around 11.40am on Tuesday between the Isle of Wight and Normandy, is understood to have involved the Russian frigate Admiral Grigorovich, the Press Association news agency reported."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20yzm84r7lo
Wills2 said:
Thing is they know we have nothing to respond with, it's not like we're capable of dispatching a destroyer to intercept or warn them off is it.
We could have sent a wide range of air assets, no destroyer necessary. In reality, it's a Russian ship, so we could just wait for it to start sinking on it's own accord.Russia does this kind of s
thousery because they know that we are a mostly sensible nation that will always choose to de-escalate a situation. BBC said:
The frigate thought to be involved in Tuesday's incident was being shadowed by the HMS Mersey, it is understood.
On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
Which surely makes it more of an event. If they fired warning shots near a yacht which maybe they think was getting too close, that is one thing - but ignoring a RN vessel shadowing seems to be more reckless.On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
Why does it seem reckless? What did you think would happen…the RN would fire back? You, and I, and the MOD, and the Russians know they wouldn’t. As such, there was bugger all reckless involved.
Now personally, I’d have put several torpedos into her and told the Russians terrible shame, she appears to have struck an old German mine.
But that’s me and I’m a reckless.
Now personally, I’d have put several torpedos into her and told the Russians terrible shame, she appears to have struck an old German mine.
But that’s me and I’m a reckless
.Radio 4 linking it to the shadow fleet tanker seizure, but more likely to be itchy trigger fingers as expecting Ukrainian strikes?
And they do have form!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident
And they do have form!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident
Yahonza said:
Have we got any warships left to patrol the Channel, or are they all in dry dock getting overhauled/repaired/scuppered?
Quite seriously I think Ukraine would sell us a dozen unmanned craft thst wouldn't be detered by warning shots. The cost would be peanuts. Station them around the Russian ship keeping pace. Would put the wind up the Captain far more than HMS Mersey.Yahonza said:
Have we got any warships left to patrol the Channel, or are they all in dry dock getting overhauled/repaired/scuppered?
The BBC said:
The frigate thought to be involved in Tuesday's incident was being shadowed by the HMS Mersey, it is understood.
On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
2fast748 said:
Yahonza said:
Have we got any warships left to patrol the Channel, or are they all in dry dock getting overhauled/repaired/scuppered?
The BBC said:
The frigate thought to be involved in Tuesday's incident was being shadowed by the HMS Mersey, it is understood.
On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
On Monday, the Navy said the Admiral Grigorovich was being tracked by the HMS Tyne and HMS Mersey over the weekend, in what it described as a "routine operation" after it was spotted off the coast of Brest in France.
Reading between the lines, they fired some rifles in the air when the yacht didn't respond to their horn?
Visibility may have been middling/poor?
We British yotspersons are probably at more risk from the UK Navy.
And Army, from the many firing ranges along the coast.
It used to be a game when sailing in the Channel, to 'salute' warships by 'dipping the ensign'.
Warships would return the salute which would involve sending some poor midshipman to the stern to faff with the flag.
These days, we only seem to see the navy nip out of Plymouth, do random unpredictable turns and rush home before the kids are out of primary school.
File under after dinner anecdotes / no damage
Visibility may have been middling/poor?
We British yotspersons are probably at more risk from the UK Navy.
And Army, from the many firing ranges along the coast.
It used to be a game when sailing in the Channel, to 'salute' warships by 'dipping the ensign'.
Warships would return the salute which would involve sending some poor midshipman to the stern to faff with the flag.
These days, we only seem to see the navy nip out of Plymouth, do random unpredictable turns and rush home before the kids are out of primary school.
File under after dinner anecdotes / no damage
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