Royal Taxes
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19,884 posts

65 months

Friday 26th June
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So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.


mikebradford

3,152 posts

174 months

Friday 26th June
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Hopefully some of the anti monarchs will accept that the monarchy does pay for itself. Never mind the income the country benefits from tourism etc associated with the monarchy.

Alickadoo

3,439 posts

52 months

Friday 26th June
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119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has received the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.


Edited by Alickadoo on Friday 26th June 07:33

valiant

14,166 posts

189 months

Friday 26th June
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Alickadoo said:
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has resived the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.
Yep, it's a just a show so that the proles go "gosh, that's a lot" without questioning how much income that's from. It's pretty meaningless without knowing the full figures.

John D.

20,997 posts

238 months

Friday 26th June
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valiant said:
Alickadoo said:
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has resived the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.
Yep, it's a just a show so that the proles go "gosh, that's a lot" without questioning how much income that's from. It's pretty meaningless without knowing the full figures.
The linked article states the Sovereign Grant will be £100m for 2027/2028.


Rusty Old-Banger

7,662 posts

242 months

Friday 26th June
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mikebradford said:
Hopefully some of the anti monarchs will accept that the monarchy does pay for itself. Never mind the income the country benefits from tourism etc associated with the monarchy.
Fat chance. They will find some way to dance on the head of a pin and twist it to be bad, NoT eNuFf! .

As the few posts after yours have shown.

£12m is a fat chunk, and it is based on his income, not his wealth. He is perfectly entitled to use the tools of economy to minimise his tax bill as far as he can, just like everyone else (does).

Paul Dishman

5,402 posts

266 months

Friday 26th June
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As the Royals have announced that they’re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn’t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn’t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc

dingg

4,537 posts

248 months

Friday 26th June
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Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Friday 26th June
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119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>

DeejRC

9,573 posts

111 months

Friday 26th June
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dingg said:
Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?
? Do you not read?
The Sovereign Grant IS being reduced. By tens of millions of pounds…

Don’t worry, nobody expects you to say: Oh really? That’s good then.

Magikarp

1,751 posts

77 months

Friday 26th June
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John D. said:
The linked article states the Sovereign Grant will be £100m for 2027/2028.
So about 12% tax then. FFS. Abolish the sodding monarchy and evict these deplorable parasites at the same time. s.

juice

9,870 posts

311 months

Friday 26th June
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Paul Dishman said:
As the Royals have announced that they re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc
They already have delusions of grandeur, don't give them ideas !

loafer123

16,709 posts

244 months

Friday 26th June
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Paul Dishman said:
As the Royals have announced that they re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc
There are far better temporary options than that.

Swapping one unsuitable Grade 1 listed building for another would be nuts.

John D.

20,997 posts

238 months

Friday 26th June
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DeejRC said:
dingg said:
Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?
? Do you not read?
The Sovereign Grant IS being reduced. By tens of millions of pounds

Don t worry, nobody expects you to say: Oh really? That s good then.
Can you read? laugh

Linked article states it is being increased.

Heard on Radio 4 just now that some of the increase is to cover refurbishment/maintenance and switch to green energy costs for buildings, which I think is probably fair enough. They are national assets after all and need to be future proofed. Hopefully there is some value for money there.

ChevronB19

9,085 posts

192 months

Friday 26th June
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
Fat chance. They will find some way to dance on the head of a pin and twist it to be bad, NoT eNuFf! .

As the few posts after yours have shown.

£12m is a fat chunk, and it is based on his income, not his wealth. He is perfectly entitled to use the tools of economy to minimise his tax bill as far as he can, just like everyone else (does).
It’s not based on his income. Or it could be. His total income isn’t revealed (e.g. private investments etc.).

It’s ‘better’ than it was, but is a degree of translucency, not transparency.

C4ME

1,616 posts

240 months

Friday 26th June
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Jasandjules said:
119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>
Are you sure on this. I was under the impression they only pay tax on their private income. So for Charles he owns a number of private estates (eg Duchy Of Lancaster) and for William it is the Duchy Of Cornwall. These are privately owned lands and do not belong to the state, nor are they funded by us.

Alickadoo

3,439 posts

52 months

Friday 26th June
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C4ME said:
Are you sure on this. I was under the impression they only pay tax on their private income. So for Charles he owns a number of private estates (eg Duchy Of Lancaster) and for William it is the Duchy Of Cornwall. These are privately owned lands and do not belong to the state, nor are they funded by us.
Just for clarity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lancaster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Cornwall

I don't think you understand how the system works.

DrDeAtH

3,699 posts

261 months

Friday 26th June
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Jasandjules said:
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>
So does the wages of every civil servant, NHS staff, firefighters, military

They all pay tax too no?

Sheepshanks

40,990 posts

148 months

Friday 26th June
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DrDeAtH said:
So does the wages of every civil servant, NHS staff, firefighters, military

They all pay tax too no?
So when it s said how much the NHS (for example) costs, does that allow for the tax and NI the staff repay? rotate

Edited by Sheepshanks on Friday 26th June 10:19

S600BSB

8,354 posts

135 months

Friday 26th June
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So combined, they paid about the same amount of tax as Erling Haaland did last year. People will have their own views on who provided the most entertainment.