Royal Taxes
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Original Poster:

18,476 posts

62 months

So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.


mikebradford

3,111 posts

171 months

Hopefully some of the anti monarchs will accept that the monarchy does pay for itself. Never mind the income the country benefits from tourism etc associated with the monarchy.

Alickadoo

3,422 posts

49 months

119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has received the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.


Edited by Alickadoo on Friday 26th June 07:33

valiant

13,782 posts

186 months

Alickadoo said:
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has resived the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.
Yep, it's a just a show so that the proles go "gosh, that's a lot" without questioning how much income that's from. It's pretty meaningless without knowing the full figures.

John D.

20,638 posts

235 months

valiant said:
Alickadoo said:
Which leaves the question - how much did they receive in the first place?

As it was all from us anyway, it seems like a virtual circle - or something - anyway.

As the monarch has been receiving the proceeds of the Duchy of Lancaster and the first born child has resived the proceeds of the Duchy Of cornwall since... the 14th century, is it? The whole procedure seems to be the ultimate academic exercise.
Yep, it's a just a show so that the proles go "gosh, that's a lot" without questioning how much income that's from. It's pretty meaningless without knowing the full figures.
The linked article states the Sovereign Grant will be £100m for 2027/2028.


Rusty Old-Banger

7,161 posts

239 months

mikebradford said:
Hopefully some of the anti monarchs will accept that the monarchy does pay for itself. Never mind the income the country benefits from tourism etc associated with the monarchy.
Fat chance. They will find some way to dance on the head of a pin and twist it to be bad, NoT eNuFf! .

As the few posts after yours have shown.

£12m is a fat chunk, and it is based on his income, not his wealth. He is perfectly entitled to use the tools of economy to minimise his tax bill as far as he can, just like everyone else (does).

Paul Dishman

5,323 posts

263 months

As the Royals have announced that they’re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn’t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn’t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc

dingg

4,517 posts

245 months

Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?

Jasandjules

72,236 posts

255 months

119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>

DeejRC

9,068 posts

108 months

dingg said:
Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?
? Do you not read?
The Sovereign Grant IS being reduced. By tens of millions of pounds…

Don’t worry, nobody expects you to say: Oh really? That’s good then.

Magikarp

1,676 posts

74 months

John D. said:
The linked article states the Sovereign Grant will be £100m for 2027/2028.
So about 12% tax then. FFS. Abolish the sodding monarchy and evict these deplorable parasites at the same time. s.

juice

9,710 posts

308 months

Paul Dishman said:
As the Royals have announced that they re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc
They already have delusions of grandeur, don't give them ideas !

loafer123

16,592 posts

241 months

Paul Dishman said:
As the Royals have announced that they re not going to live in Buckingham Palace, couldn t it be used for Parliament when the current building is renovated?

It wouldn t be necessary to move everything and everyone there but set up the debating chambers and some space for sub committees meetings etc
There are far better temporary options than that.

Swapping one unsuitable Grade 1 listed building for another would be nuts.

John D.

20,638 posts

235 months

DeejRC said:
dingg said:
Benefits need to be cut

Maybe they should lead the way?
? Do you not read?
The Sovereign Grant IS being reduced. By tens of millions of pounds

Don t worry, nobody expects you to say: Oh really? That s good then.
Can you read? laugh

Linked article states it is being increased.

Heard on Radio 4 just now that some of the increase is to cover refurbishment/maintenance and switch to green energy costs for buildings, which I think is probably fair enough. They are national assets after all and need to be future proofed. Hopefully there is some value for money there.

ChevronB19

8,604 posts

189 months

Rusty Old-Banger said:
Fat chance. They will find some way to dance on the head of a pin and twist it to be bad, NoT eNuFf! .

As the few posts after yours have shown.

£12m is a fat chunk, and it is based on his income, not his wealth. He is perfectly entitled to use the tools of economy to minimise his tax bill as far as he can, just like everyone else (does).
It’s not based on his income. Or it could be. His total income isn’t revealed (e.g. private investments etc.).

It’s ‘better’ than it was, but is a degree of translucency, not transparency.

C4ME

1,604 posts

237 months

Jasandjules said:
119 said:
So the King and P.O.W. have revealed their voluntary tax contributions for the first time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x2151y8q4o

£12m for the king and £7.7m for the prince.
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>
Are you sure on this. I was under the impression they only pay tax on their private income. So for Charles he owns a number of private estates (eg Duchy Of Lancaster) and for William it is the Duchy Of Cornwall. These are privately owned lands and do not belong to the state, nor are they funded by us.

Alickadoo

3,422 posts

49 months

C4ME said:
Are you sure on this. I was under the impression they only pay tax on their private income. So for Charles he owns a number of private estates (eg Duchy Of Lancaster) and for William it is the Duchy Of Cornwall. These are privately owned lands and do not belong to the state, nor are they funded by us.
Just for clarity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lancaster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Cornwall

I don't think you understand how the system works.

DrDeAtH

3,683 posts

258 months

Jasandjules said:
Tax? Tax? Their money comes from the state in the first place FFS>
So does the wages of every civil servant, NHS staff, firefighters, military

They all pay tax too no?

Sheepshanks

40,111 posts

145 months

DrDeAtH said:
So does the wages of every civil servant, NHS staff, firefighters, military

They all pay tax too no?
So when it s said how much the NHS (for example) costs, does that allow for the tax and NI the staff repay? rotate

Edited by Sheepshanks on Friday 26th June 10:19

S600BSB

7,808 posts

132 months

So combined, they paid about the same amount of tax as Erling Haaland did last year. People will have their own views on who provided the most entertainment.