Police arrest victim... again...
Police arrest victim... again...
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STe_rsv4

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

125 months

https://x.com/i/status/2072704166300905713

Birmingham Police asking for the video to stoop being shared and they are happy with the outcome of the their own actions.
what do you think?

JagLover

46,527 posts

262 months

Yes I've seen that.

The guy doesn't hit anyone. He is being confronted by a gang, one of whom knocks him to the ground and then another hits him on the back of the head once he is down. The police do nothing........until the gang move on whereupon they immediately push the victim of the assault up against a shopfront.

Not surprised they don't want the footage shared.

Tankrizzo

7,990 posts

220 months

"I don't think you were being attacked, mate"

Wills2

29,035 posts

202 months


Clown world.


catso

16,147 posts

294 months

Maybe I'm harking back to a different time but when did Police officers start using the F word and threatening violence when dealing with someone?

Yes drunken/angry people being arrested do but, surely the Police should rise above that and be professional. I mean if asked in court to repeat what they said do they really want to be saying 'get in the fking car' and 'try anything and you'll be dropped'.

BikeBikeBIke

14,164 posts

142 months

Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.

MrBogSmith

5,974 posts

61 months

Only thing I can think of is her view is obstructed by these two when approaching, then the 'punch' the victim throws (which was reasonable for him to do as he'd still think he was being attacked) results in his arrest.



But yeah, wrong person based off just the recording alone.

catso said:
Maybe I'm harking back to a different time but when did Police officers start using the F word and threatening violence when dealing with someone?

Yes drunken/angry people being arrested do but, surely the Police should rise above that and be professional. I mean if asked in court to repeat what they said do they really want to be saying 'get in the fking car' and 'try anything and you'll be dropped'.
Yeah no need in most circumstances.

Incivility is the easiest complaint to avoid.



seabod91

1,007 posts

89 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That’s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.

XCP

17,638 posts

255 months

catso said:
Maybe I'm harking back to a different time but when did Police officers start using the F word and threatening violence when dealing with someone?

Yes drunken/angry people being arrested do but, surely the Police should rise above that and be professional. I mean if asked in court to repeat what they said do they really want to be saying 'get in the fking car' and 'try anything and you'll be dropped'.
Well before I joined in 1980.
Sometime in the 19th century would be my guess.

CMTMB

1,504 posts

22 months

My suspicion is the officer went for the low hanging fruit, the easiest and most comfortable arrest and thought she would get away with it. Hopefully she won't.

BikeBikeBIke

14,164 posts

142 months

seabod91 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.
Yup, it's a heck of a leap, but what's the alternative hypothesis? I can't think of one.

STe_rsv4

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

125 months

catso said:
Maybe I'm harking back to a different time but when did Police officers start using the F word and threatening violence when dealing with someone?

Yes drunken/angry people being arrested do but, surely the Police should rise above that and be professional. I mean if asked in court to repeat what they said do they really want to be saying 'get in the fking car' and 'try anything and you'll be dropped'.
especially when it comes from 2 females who would probably end up on their own arse if trying to fight.

remedy

2,241 posts

218 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
seabod91 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.
Yup, it's a heck of a leap, but what's the alternative hypothesis? I can't think of one.
I could forsee this assumption coming, but even if that was the case, she saw him get taken down. He didn't throw any punches.
So, he isn't the physical aggressor even if he was giving it the verbal.


Besides, his verbal is severely lacking as it is. I couldn't understand anything he was saying, proper innit bruv.


I can't see this helping the Police at all.

STe_rsv4

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

125 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
seabod91 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.
Yup, it's a heck of a leap, but what's the alternative hypothesis? I can't think of one.
therefore, maybe there is no other reason?

BikeBikeBIke

14,164 posts

142 months

STe_rsv4 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
seabod91 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.
Yup, it's a heck of a leap, but what's the alternative hypothesis? I can't think of one.
therefore, maybe there is no other reason?
No other reason than what?

BikeBikeBIke

14,164 posts

142 months

remedy said:
I could forsee this assumption coming, but even if that was the case, she saw him get taken down. He didn't throw any punches.
So, he isn't the physical aggressor even if he was giving it the verbal.
We don't know what he did or when. All we've seen is the bit where he gets arrested.

JagLover

46,527 posts

262 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
remedy said:
I could forsee this assumption coming, but even if that was the case, she saw him get taken down. He didn't throw any punches.
So, he isn't the physical aggressor even if he was giving it the verbal.
We don't know what he did or when. All we've seen is the bit where he gets arrested.
Not sure if it has been cut off this clip as I don't have a twitch account, but in a longer version a police officer is telling the woman who made the arrest that the lad likely thought she was one of the attackers at first as she pounced on him just afterwards. That doesn't suggest everyone on the scene thought it was a great arrest.

seabod91

1,007 posts

89 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
seabod91 said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
Very short clip. I'm gonna bet he'd been starting on people all night and they decided that last altercation was the last straw.
That s quite the jump.

Surly he would have been arrested on suspicion of breach of peace or something along the lines of he had been warned multiple times previously.

Not assault on a police officer, which never happened anyway from what we can see.
Yup, it's a heck of a leap, but what's the alternative hypothesis? I can't think of one.
I’m sure we can be certain of one thing. Whatever comes of this it will be used in a decisive way. Oh joy.

MrBogSmith

5,974 posts

61 months

We're in a place where there's a huge amount of visibility. Not just recordings being uploaded, but people who are live streaming across platforms for monetisation purposes.

1000s of hours, find one questionable public order arrest which can feed into an agenda, then you're on to a viral clip (not that the person who recorded / streamed it may benefit to the full extent).

CMTMB said:
My suspicion is the officer went for the low hanging fruit, the easiest and most comfortable arrest and thought she would get away with it. Hopefully she won't.
'Low-hanging fruit' is to tell people to go their separate ways because it's a low-level public order scuffle.

You're paid the same whether you are stuck in custody / having to do paperwork or not.




gotoPzero

20,377 posts

216 months

Full video is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t8qVtCm3Js

Some NSFW language.

Shows the state of the country in general.

The incident in question is around 5 mins and 20 seconds in - but its worth watching the whole thing.