What Is The Point Of Taxi Licencing?
What Is The Point Of Taxi Licencing?
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Original Poster:

9,616 posts

163 months

Seems a bit pointless if a rape conviction does not result in your operator licence being revoked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75ykd32rdko

In fairness, four of those who took the decision have resigned from the committee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrggzx14r5o


Lotobear

8,892 posts

155 months

irc said:
Seems a bit pointless if a rape conviction does not result in your operator licence being revoked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75ykd32rdko

In fairness, four of those who took the decision have resigned from the committee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrggzx14r5o
Like vape shops and 'Turkish' barbers, if there's a fee or tax to be gathered all is well it would seem

JagLover

46,543 posts

262 months

On the face of it this looks a shocking decision.

Hill92

5,348 posts

217 months

There is more to this story in local news:

1. The taxi driver is in prison after being sentenced to six years last month. His individual taxi driver licence has been suspended since his arrest in January 2024.
2. He also held two taxi operator's licences, which attach to taxi vehicles rather than an individual. However operator's licences do have to be applied for by an individual and cannot be transferred to another person.
3. One of those taxi vehicles is driven by his wife who also holds a taxi driver's licence in her own right.
4. She asked the licensing committee to hold off revoking the operator licence for the vehicle she drives so she could continue to drive it. That taxi is her sole source of income as a now single mother of two.
5. The committee queried why she had not already applied for a new operator's licence. She explained that for financial reasons she could not afford to lose the remaining five months on the existing licence. Hence her request that the existing operator's licence be allowed to continue until that expiry date.
6. The licensing committee agreed to this request.
7. The committee papers and hearing were held in private so the media weren't aware of this context before they ran with the shock headline.

https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/councillo...

Edited by Hill92 on Tuesday 7th July 11:46


Edited by Hill92 on Tuesday 7th July 11:52

BikeBikeBIke

14,174 posts

142 months

There must be some missing information here.

They were "assured by officials that Brown would never be permitted to drive a taxi again."

Also he'd be in prison until after the 'other' licence expired.

So presumably there is some purely technical reason the family wanted his "personal" license to continue even though he wouldn't be driving.

JagLover

46,543 posts

262 months

Hill92 said:
There is more to this story in local news:

1. The taxi driver is in prison after being sentenced to six years last month. His individual taxi driver licence has been revoked.
2. He also held two taxi operator's licences, which attach to taxi vehicles rather than an individual.
3. One of those taxi vehicles is driven by his wife who also holds a taxi driver's licence.
4. She asked the licensing committee to hold off revoking the operator licence for the vehicle she drives to give her time to transfer it into her name and apply for a new operator's licence. That taxi is her sole source of income as a now single mother of two.
5. The committee queried why she had not already applied for a new operator's licence. She explained that for financial reasons she could not afford to lose the remaining five months on the existing licence. Hence her request that the existing licence be allowed to continue until that expiry date.
6. The licensing committee agreed to this request.
7. The committee papers and hearing were held in private so the media weren't aware of this context before they ran with the shock headline.

https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/councillo...
Thank you, that makes far more sense and clearly the wife is not responsible for the crimes of her husband here.

simon_harris

2,915 posts

61 months

That reads to me like that he wasn't allowed to work as a taxi driver but his car was able to be used as a taxi, and if I am being honest I am not sure why that is a problem? His punishment was that he was put in prison for his actions, his family shouldn't be punished for what he did and as a family business taking away that operators licence does punish the family business.

perhaps I have not read it or understood it correctly.

Countdown

48,596 posts

223 months

JagLover said:
Hill92 said:
There is more to this story in local news:

1. The taxi driver is in prison after being sentenced to six years last month. His individual taxi driver licence has been revoked.
2. He also held two taxi operator's licences, which attach to taxi vehicles rather than an individual.
3. One of those taxi vehicles is driven by his wife who also holds a taxi driver's licence.
4. She asked the licensing committee to hold off revoking the operator licence for the vehicle she drives to give her time to transfer it into her name and apply for a new operator's licence. That taxi is her sole source of income as a now single mother of two.
5. The committee queried why she had not already applied for a new operator's licence. She explained that for financial reasons she could not afford to lose the remaining five months on the existing licence. Hence her request that the existing licence be allowed to continue until that expiry date.
6. The licensing committee agreed to this request.
7. The committee papers and hearing were held in private so the media weren't aware of this context before they ran with the shock headline.

https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/councillo...
Thank you, that makes far more sense and clearly the wife is not responsible for the crimes of her husband here.
Seconded.

irc

Original Poster:

9,616 posts

163 months

Seems a feeble excuse. An operator licence is £506 valid for 3 years. So she saved around £70 for those 5 months by not applying for a licence in her own right.

Hardship to other family members happens when you rape someone and get sent to jail.

The fact several members have reigned would appear to confirm they got this one wrong.

simon_harris

2,915 posts

61 months

Unless you can't hold a taxi operator licence while having a criminal conviction i still don't see what they did wrong.

BikeBikeBIke

14,174 posts

142 months

irc said:
Seems a feeble excuse. An operator licence is £506 valid for 3 years. So she saved around £70 for those 5 months by not applying for a licence in her own right.
So what? Let's imagine she just forgot or let it slide. What difference does that make?

irc said:
Hardship to other family members happens when you rape someone and get sent to jail.
Welfare state. If the wife doesn't work to feed the family the tax payer does, and she gets more leisure time.

irc said:
The fact several members have reigned would appear to confirm they got this one wrong.
Resigning from a commitee (or even from a council seat) means nothing. It's like me resigning from doing the washing up. These aren't desirable roles. The officers who recommended renewing aren't resigning because they're paid roles which they want to keep. Nothing to do with the correctness of the decision.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 7th July 13:28