Asylum seekers jailed for Brighton Beach rape
Asylum seekers jailed for Brighton Beach rape
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butchstewie

Original Poster:

66,500 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th July
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I'm not really a fan of a single thread with post after post of crimes by migrants or asylum seekers as I can't help think it does a disservice to the victims.

This is absolutely abhorrent.

Three men who raped woman on Brighton beach jailed

Hefty sentences but another crime where the inevitable question is why were these utter horrors allowed to roam around unsupervised?

Mortarboard

12,735 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Because asylum processing in the uk is fked, with no political will to address it.

Go full detention until processed and you're accused of being inhumane.
Do anything else and you're accused of being pro-rapist or hating the uk or some such nonsense

Further compounded by nimbyism, and "it should be someone else's problem/responsibility"

And to a lesser extent, some of the shortsightedness in the brexit negotiations haven't helped.

M.

2172cc

1,862 posts

124 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Asked AI:
The average annual cost to imprison one person in England and Wales is £53,801 for 2024/25, representing a 5% increase from the previous year. The total expenditure for the prison system in that period was approximately £4.9 billion for a population of 87,000 inmates.


Sheets Tabuer

21,288 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th July
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The daily bait thread.

This'll go well.

Terminator X

20,202 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Mortarboard said:
Because asylum processing in the uk is fked, with no political will to address it.

Go full detention until processed and you're accused of being inhumane.
Do anything else and you're accused of being pro-rapist or hating the uk or some such nonsense

Further compounded by nimbyism, and "it should be someone else's problem/responsibility"

And to a lesser extent, some of the shortsightedness in the brexit negotiations haven't helped.

M.
They should be held on army bases imho and not allowed to leave. No passports, know nothing about them but off you go roam the streets. FFS.

TX.

butchstewie

Original Poster:

66,500 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Terminator X said:
They should be held on army bases imho and not allowed to leave. No passports, know nothing about them but off you go roam the streets. FFS.

TX.
I think that's fair.

Nothing wrong with safe good quality basic accommodation but each time I read about one of these awful crimes one of the recurring theme seems to be the complete lack of supervision.

JagLover

46,655 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Two of them from Egypt which is a holiday destination not a warzone.

Crumpet

5,277 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th July
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JagLover said:
Two of them from Egypt which is a holiday destination not a warzone.
Let’s be honest, the number genuinely seeking asylum is minimal, because if you’re truly threatened in your own country you’d just be overjoyed to make it out to the nearest safe country. The overwhelming majority are economic migrants.

Super Sonic

13,790 posts

81 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Terminator X said:
They should be held on army bases imho and not allowed to leave. No passports, know nothing about them but off you go roam the streets. FFS.

TX.
Agree.

gotoPzero

20,467 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Super Sonic said:
Terminator X said:
They should be held on army bases imho and not allowed to leave. No passports, know nothing about them but off you go roam the streets. FFS.

TX.
Agree.
Oooman rights tho, bruv....

Super Sonic

13,790 posts

81 months

Wednesday 15th July
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gotoPzero said:
Oooman rights tho, bruv....
Yes I know people are going to start shouting 'internment' but isn't internment in a safe place better than persecution in their home country or living in a tent city with zero cleaning cooking medical or toilet facilities in tent city, Calais?
If the life they are leaving is genuinely that stty, internment would be a better alternative.

Slow.Patrol

5,349 posts

41 months

Wednesday 15th July
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It would be interesting to know if the victim could sue the government for their failure to deport the failed asylum seekers that carried out this horrendous crime.

Since when has Egypt been a war zone?

Our governments (as I include the previous one) are pathetic.


Mortarboard

12,735 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Reasons for seeking asylum can be much more far reaching than just "it's a warzone"

Kashoggi, for example, was killed in a Saudi embassy in turkey- neither of those are "warzones"

M.

Mortarboard

12,735 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Not really the point, but ok.....

M.

Super Sonic

13,790 posts

81 months

Wednesday 15th July
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He didn't come on a small boat, bypassing customs and immigration, without a passport. He was a well known journalist iirc.

ukwill

10,044 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Super Sonic said:
Because we're not all fking psychopaths.
True. But we seem to be welcoming lots.

As for asylum, the recent case in Ireland where a lefty yank woman was murdered by her failed-asylum-seeking boyfriend…. He was seeking asylum from Jordan.

Guess where he fled to after murdering her.

So very much “asylum” is bogus.

Face it, the systems/protocols/facilities we have in place (and not just us in the U.K.) are woefully inadequate for what we’ve been experiencing. And politicians do not seem to be able to figure out what to do. Apart from when it lands on their constituency doorstep. At which point they become remarkably less enthusiastic.

_Rodders_

3,282 posts

46 months

Wednesday 15th July
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butchstewie said:
I'm not really a fan of a single thread with post after post of crimes by migrants or asylum seekers as I can't help think it does a disservice to the victims.

This is absolutely abhorrent.

Three men who raped woman on Brighton beach jailed

Hefty sentences but another crime where the inevitable question is why were these utter horrors allowed to roam around unsupervised?
Who's going to supervise 10's of thousands of migrants?

Mortarboard

12,735 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th July
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ukwill said:
Super Sonic said:
Because we're not all fking psychopaths.
True. But we seem to be welcoming lots.

As for asylum, the recent case in Ireland where a lefty yank woman was murdered by her failed-asylum-seeking boyfriend . He was seeking asylum from Jordan.

Guess where he fled to after murdering her.

So very much asylum is bogus.

Face it, the systems/protocols/facilities we have in place (and not just us in the U.K.) are woefully inadequate for what we ve been experiencing. And politicians do not seem to be able to figure out what to do. Apart from when it lands on their constituency doorstep. At which point they become remarkably less enthusiastic.
It's the processing that needs fixing.

Weed out the fakes. And it's not just fake asylum seekers.

Nobody knows how many visa over-stayers are in the uk for example.

https://news.sky.com/story/the-government-doesnt-k...

(Since brexit, or coincidence?)

M.

_Rodders_

3,282 posts

46 months

Wednesday 15th July
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Mortarboard said:
Reasons for seeking asylum can be much more far reaching than just "it's a warzone"

Kashoggi, for example, was killed in a Saudi embassy in turkey- neither of those are "warzones"

M.
Coached on how to appear gay is a popular one.

milesgiles

5,132 posts

56 months

Wednesday 15th July
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I can’t process this new right of centre Stewie