Another Met cock-up - Simon Levy
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How many times do we have to see this happen.
How police let a registered sex offender murder and attack women
How the hell was this man free to do these crimes.
How police let a registered sex offender murder and attack women
How the hell was this man free to do these crimes.
Just read the BBC article. It’s astonishing how this guy was allowed to stay on the streets despite him having a record of multiple sexual assaults. At one point he was on bail for o e set of offences and committed another group of assaults on the underground while he was awaiting trial. Just astonishing.
I can’t help thinking this was down to jail overcrowding and clogged up justice system as much as it is to the incompetence of the two police officers who carried the can.
I can’t help thinking this was down to jail overcrowding and clogged up justice system as much as it is to the incompetence of the two police officers who carried the can.
Jasandjules said:
Wheel Turned Out said:
Part of a broader issue I think, where sex assault crimes and stalking are still not taken as seriously as they should be.
The problem seems to be that wacism and hurty words are treated as the most heinous crimes whilst rape, murder and so on are not. The recording revealed this random copper, and the random group of coper colleagues he worked with had a very unhealthy attitude to women.
The point: I think the police are institutionaly blind to these sorts of crimes. It can't just be a coincidence.
Something in terms of how they're recruited, there backgrounds, their peer groups, the (complete lack of) challenge to their behavior, the entitlement and power they have...
Again and again "bad apples" are found, but surrounded by "good apples" that condone and permit this behaviour.
From what I read it's not an easy job, and i feel society is very much better off with a police force.
But I just wish they would ask more from themselves in terms of behavior like this.
I would add for balance that there also seems to be growing issues in wider society on this topic as well.
Jasandjules said:
Wheel Turned Out said:
Part of a broader issue I think, where sex assault crimes and stalking are still not taken as seriously as they should be.
The problem seems to be that wacism and hurty words are treated as the most heinous crimes whilst rape, murder and so on are not. Ian Geary said:
I read a graun articel where a lady protestor had a go pro camera seized by a copper (illegally btw), who then left it on in their pocket whilst it recorded for several hours. It was returned to her in time without plod realising what it had recorded.
The recording revealed this random copper, and the random group of coper colleagues he worked with had a very unhealthy attitude to women.
The point: I think the police are institutionaly blind to these sorts of crimes. It can't just be a coincidence.
Something in terms of how they're recruited, there backgrounds, their peer groups, the (complete lack of) challenge to their behavior, the entitlement and power they have...
Again and again "bad apples" are found, but surrounded by "good apples" that condone and permit this behaviour.
From what I read it's not an easy job, and i feel society is very much better off with a police force.
But I just wish they would ask more from themselves in terms of behavior like this.
I would add for balance that there also seems to be growing issues in wider society on this topic as well.
I think this is fair.The recording revealed this random copper, and the random group of coper colleagues he worked with had a very unhealthy attitude to women.
The point: I think the police are institutionaly blind to these sorts of crimes. It can't just be a coincidence.
Something in terms of how they're recruited, there backgrounds, their peer groups, the (complete lack of) challenge to their behavior, the entitlement and power they have...
Again and again "bad apples" are found, but surrounded by "good apples" that condone and permit this behaviour.
From what I read it's not an easy job, and i feel society is very much better off with a police force.
But I just wish they would ask more from themselves in terms of behavior like this.
I would add for balance that there also seems to be growing issues in wider society on this topic as well.
On reflection the thread title is wrong. In this case it's the whole damned justice system that cocked up.
Somehow at every single opportunity - and there were bloody loads of them - it put Levy above the victims.
Mail but they're surprisingly good at stuff like this sometimes.
https://www.dailymail.com/crime-desk/article-16030...
I can't work out how (so far) action only seems to be underway against two relatively low-ranking Police officers.
https://www.dailymail.com/crime-desk/article-16030...
I can't work out how (so far) action only seems to be underway against two relatively low-ranking Police officers.
Simon Levy was granted bail by the courts, despite police seeking to have him remanded in custody.
Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings — in May, June and August 2025 — at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences — the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted “there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.”
It also acknowledged that it “could and should have taken a more robust approach” when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn’t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings — in May, June and August 2025 — at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences — the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted “there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.”
It also acknowledged that it “could and should have taken a more robust approach” when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn’t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
Jasandjules said:
Wheel Turned Out said:
Part of a broader issue I think, where sex assault crimes and stalking are still not taken as seriously as they should be.
The problem seems to be that wacism and hurty words are treated as the most heinous crimes whilst rape, murder and so on are not.Institutional misogyny and very little practical change in society's attitude to the assault of women isn't something that happens because the police are too busy looking at Twitter. It happens because lots of men, often in the police themselves, don't really think there's anything wrong with it at all.
Wheel Turned Out said:
Honestly I don't think another "you can't say anything these days" argument is either necessary or appropriate here, myself.
Institutional misogyny and very little practical change in society's attitude to the assault of women isn't something that happens because the police are too busy looking at Twitter. It happens because lots of men, often in the police themselves, don't really think there's anything wrong with it at all.
Quite.Institutional misogyny and very little practical change in society's attitude to the assault of women isn't something that happens because the police are too busy looking at Twitter. It happens because lots of men, often in the police themselves, don't really think there's anything wrong with it at all.
But it wouldn't be NP&E without someone getting "hurty words" into it somehow even when two women are dead and countless women have been groped and sexually assaulted.
Earthdweller said:
Simon Levy was granted bail by the courts, despite police seeking to have him remanded in custody.
Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings in May, June and August 2025 at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.
It also acknowledged that it could and should have taken a more robust approach when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
Thanks for this. Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings in May, June and August 2025 at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.
It also acknowledged that it could and should have taken a more robust approach when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
Do you think that the awful outcomes here could have been avoided?
I think they could have had those involved in the chain of events had not been hampered by the chronic underfunding of the justice system and the fact that some elements of the system seam to continually promise improvement but actually DO nothing to move the needle.
Earthdweller said:
Simon Levy was granted bail by the courts, despite police seeking to have him remanded in custody.
Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings in May, June and August 2025 at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.
It also acknowledged that it could and should have taken a more robust approach when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
So who from the CPS is going to jail for this, because at this point, their continual incompetence directly aided in the death of someone, so "someone" NEEDS to be publicly (and preferably criminally) called to account. Yet, as this will never happen, we all know these things will just continue to happen again and again and again, and again.Specifically, after his arrest for the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo in April 2025, he was released on bail/under investigation because the post-mortem could not establish a definitive cause of death.
Levy was arrested by British Transport Police over a series of sexual assaults on trains. By May 2025, police wanted him remanded because they considered him a high risk of reoffending and believed his offending was escalating.
Crucially, the CPS has admitted that relevant information was not given to the court during the bail hearings, including information about his previous sexual convictions, his status as a murder suspect and other risk information.
There were three court hearings in May, June and August 2025 at which the CPS accepts relevant bail information was not properly put before the court.
According to a source authorised to speak for the CPS, the information omitted included:
That Levy had been arrested in connection with the murder of Carmenza Valencia-Trujillo.
His previous convictions for sexual offences the CPS could find no record that these had been mentioned to the court.
That he was a suspect in a 2024 rape investigation.
The CPS itself has now admitted there was relevant information regarding bail that was not provided to the court.
It also acknowledged that it could and should have taken a more robust approach when arguing against bail. Importantly, the CPS says it cannot know whether the courts would actually have remanded him had that information been presented.
And there was another major failure - Levy failed to attend three Crown Court hearings relating to the train assaults.
The CPS accepts there is no evidence that an arrest warrant was sought for any of those failures to appear. Two times he claimed illness; on another occasion he said he hadn t been informed.
His last failure to attend was 11th August 2025. Just 13 days later, on 24 August, he murdered Sheryl Wilkins.
richhead said:
oyster said:
No, the problem is no-one wants to pay for it. We all want cash handouts. So we keep voting for parties that promise to keep that going.
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