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Greenmantle

Original Poster:

2,154 posts

137 months

Thursday 27th August
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So I am assuming the next one will be Wednesday 2nd September.
I'm predicting Raynor to the Left and Haigh to the Right
Its going to be noisy and probably a total waste of time unless the opposition can land a "William Hague" verbal trap.

Popcorn at the Ready!

Lotusgone

1,654 posts

156 months

Thursday 27th August
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PMQs is indeed a complete waste of time and indicative of our shambolic parliament.

It's just a shouty pantomime chimps' tea party that achieves nothing. Hague's trap? - he often twisted Blair in knots but it made no difference at election time.

The speaker is more to blame than anyone; questions - if they are serious and not just for points-scoring - should be heard in silence and properly addressed. Instead the noise continues and "answers" are either waffle or more points-scoring.

I know it's been like this for ages. It doesn't make it any better or more effective. IMHO we ought to have far fewer MPs, maybe 200, properly paid to attract those who have skills and experience.

M1AGM

5,178 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th August
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Greenmantle said:
So I am assuming the next one will be Wednesday 2nd September.
I'm predicting Raynor to the Left and Haigh to the Right
Its going to be noisy and probably a total waste of time unless the opposition can land a "William Hague" verbal trap.

Popcorn at the Ready!
A prick between 2 thorns.

remedy

2,271 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th August
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M1AGM said:
Greenmantle said:
So I am assuming the next one will be Wednesday 2nd September.
I'm predicting Raynor to the Left and Haigh to the Right
Its going to be noisy and probably a total waste of time unless the opposition can land a "William Hague" verbal trap.

Popcorn at the Ready!
A prick between 2 thorns.
Clowns to the left... Jokers to the right...

Yep, stacks up.

alangla

6,718 posts

210 months

Thursday 27th August
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remedy said:
M1AGM said:
Greenmantle said:
So I am assuming the next one will be Wednesday 2nd September.
I'm predicting Raynor to the Left and Haigh to the Right
Its going to be noisy and probably a total waste of time unless the opposition can land a "William Hague" verbal trap.

Popcorn at the Ready!
A prick between 2 thorns.
Clowns to the left... Jokers to the right...

Yep, stacks up.
A tax scandal on one side, a fraud conviction on the other. Labour can be trusted with the nation’s finances.

Astacus

3,739 posts

263 months

Thursday 27th August
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Lotusgone said:
PMQs is indeed a complete waste of time and indicative of our shambolic parliament.

It's just a shouty pantomime chimps' tea party that achieves nothing. Hague's trap? - he often twisted Blair in knots but it made no difference at election time.

The speaker is more to blame than anyone; questions - if they are serious and not just for points-scoring - should be heard in silence and properly addressed. Instead the noise continues and "answers" are either waffle or more points-scoring.

I know it's been like this for ages. It doesn't make it any better or more effective. IMHO we ought to have far fewer MPs, maybe 200, properly paid to attract those who have skills and experience.
I agree with the idea of having more highly paid MPs to attract the best people, but in return for the big bucks they need to be genuinely held to account.
I believe it’s time we got rid of the career politicians too. What we have right now is a system that trains our representatives to be party first country second politicians. This has to change.

smn159

15,971 posts

246 months

Friday 28th August
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Astacus said:
Lotusgone said:
PMQs is indeed a complete waste of time and indicative of our shambolic parliament.

It's just a shouty pantomime chimps' tea party that achieves nothing. Hague's trap? - he often twisted Blair in knots but it made no difference at election time.

The speaker is more to blame than anyone; questions - if they are serious and not just for points-scoring - should be heard in silence and properly addressed. Instead the noise continues and "answers" are either waffle or more points-scoring.

I know it's been like this for ages. It doesn't make it any better or more effective. IMHO we ought to have far fewer MPs, maybe 200, properly paid to attract those who have skills and experience.
I agree with the idea of having more highly paid MPs to attract the best people, but in return for the big bucks they need to be genuinely held to account.
I believe it s time we got rid of the career politicians too. What we have right now is a system that trains our representatives to be party first country second politicians. This has to change.
Indeed. What we have also is a system which encourages / allows politicians to work for donors and lobby groups rather than the country and it's citizens.

Maybe we should also look at ending political donations and fund parties centrally.

Holding politicians to account is a good call, but we need to carefully define what that means and what the measures are. 'Make them keep their manifesto pledges' is too simplistic and doesn't allow for action as circumstances change. Better to define some metrics to genuinely improve most peoples lives and measure progress against them.

M1AGM

5,178 posts

61 months

Friday 28th August
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smn159 said:
Astacus said:
Lotusgone said:
PMQs is indeed a complete waste of time and indicative of our shambolic parliament.

It's just a shouty pantomime chimps' tea party that achieves nothing. Hague's trap? - he often twisted Blair in knots but it made no difference at election time.

The speaker is more to blame than anyone; questions - if they are serious and not just for points-scoring - should be heard in silence and properly addressed. Instead the noise continues and "answers" are either waffle or more points-scoring.

I know it's been like this for ages. It doesn't make it any better or more effective. IMHO we ought to have far fewer MPs, maybe 200, properly paid to attract those who have skills and experience.
I agree with the idea of having more highly paid MPs to attract the best people, but in return for the big bucks they need to be genuinely held to account.
I believe it s time we got rid of the career politicians too. What we have right now is a system that trains our representatives to be party first country second politicians. This has to change.
Indeed. What we have also is a system which encourages / allows politicians to work for donors and lobby groups rather than the country and it's citizens.

Maybe we should also look at ending political donations and fund parties centrally.

Holding politicians to account is a good call, but we need to carefully define what that means and what the measures are. 'Make them keep their manifesto pledges' is too simplistic and doesn't allow for action as circumstances change. Better to define some metrics to genuinely improve most peoples lives and measure progress against them.
Accountability for every pound they spend would be a fair starting point. Insteads its billions this billions that, just numbers to them.