Food delivery riders and speeding
Food delivery riders and speeding
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sparta6

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

130 months

Not before time either. Speeding everywhere including pavements.
Each bike to have a unique visible number would be a good addition.


"Deliveroo will track riders’ speeds to halt illegal e-bikes
Conversion kits can turn ordinary cycles into high-powered machines, prompting concerns over dangerous riding, fires and road safety"


https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/e-bi...

butchstewie

67,811 posts

240 months

Kind of assumed they could and already were doing this sort of thing given every single thing goes through a phone app AFAIK.

thebraketester

15,791 posts

168 months

How many of them have the correct insurance too!

Gareth79

9,070 posts

276 months

butchstewie said:
Kind of assumed they could and already were doing this sort of thing given every single thing goes through a phone app AFAIK.
It was apparently already a thing that riders would register as a cyclist but use a moped, to work around the need to submit insurance details on the app (which wasn't even a legal requirement of the companies). They would never question why an order was picked up and delivered 2 miles uphill at an average speed of 30mph by bicycle.

butchstewie

67,811 posts

240 months

Gareth79 said:
It was apparently already a thing that riders would register as a cyclist but use a moped, to work around the need to submit insurance details on the app (which wasn't even a legal requirement of the companies). They would never question why an order was picked up and delivered 2 miles uphill at an average speed of 30mph by bicycle.
Yeah now you say that and I think of my general view of how these companies stretch rules and minimise liabilities and I'm not actually surprised.

FredAstaire

2,427 posts

242 months

sparta6 said:
"Deliveroo will track riders speeds to halt illegal e-bikes
sure they will, just like they track account sharing and peoples right to work

Tannedbaldhead

3,206 posts

162 months

Priority is all wrong here.

How many of us have been run over by a speeding ebike?

Now, how many of us have received a cold pizza?

Get these lads in Yamaha R1s and let's concentrate on the important things in life.

Spare tyre

12,581 posts

160 months

Where we live is a nice enough place

We are now in the uber eats catchment

Grown men driving mopeds down alleyways - at least you can hear them

I don’t think they learnt to drive in the UK so it’s probably the norm for them

Not acceptable

B'stard Child

31,116 posts

276 months

Spare tyre said:
Where we live is a nice enough place

We are now in the uber eats catchment

Grown men driving mopeds down alleyways - at least you can hear them

I don t think they learnt to drive in the UK so it s probably the norm for them

Not acceptable
I can honestly say I have never used any of the uber/just/etc eats services

I could order from my local indian via their services but I go direct and collect it myself because it's a 5 min walk or a 2 min drive - I'd still collect myself if it was 15 min drive.

If people didn't use them the issue of bad driving/speeding would rapidly be solved - so that's what I do

-Lummox-

2,203 posts

243 months

Bet it will make bugger all difference as most of the riders won't have registered as using a moped, they will be registered as riding a bicycle.

Almost all of the electric bikes being used for these sort of services aren't road legal, if you see them exceeding 15.5mph. An ebike that is compliant with the law doesn't require insurance etc but is limited to 250w motor and 15.5mph top speed.

Same as any private e-bikes or scooters you see without lights and number plates but going quicker than that. They should all be seized and destroyed / recycled.

richhead

3,419 posts

41 months

B'stard Child said:
I can honestly say I have never used any of the uber/just/etc eats services

I could order from my local indian via their services but I go direct and collect it myself because it's a 5 min walk or a 2 min drive - I'd still collect myself if it was 15 min drive.

If people didn't use them the issue of bad driving/speeding would rapidly be solved - so that's what I do
Couldnt agree more, ive never used one either, if i want a takeaway i collect it.
People have got so lazy.
I consider having a takeaway lazy in its self, and yes i do have one on occasion, but to not even pick it up is just wrong.

captain_cynic

17,350 posts

125 months

Tannedbaldhead said:
Priority is all wrong here.

How many of us have been run over by a speeding ebike?

Now, how many of us have received a cold pizza?

Get these lads in Yamaha R1s and let's concentrate on the important things in life.
Pizza is something I don't order via delivery services... most chains run their own delivery services which are cheaper and have those bags that mean your food arrives hot.

I get the joke, but to be serious the risk with speeding e-bikes is more to the rider and less to others. I know a few people who've had some nasty falls from e-bikes.

captain_cynic

17,350 posts

125 months

B'stard Child said:
I can honestly say I have never used any of the uber/just/etc eats services

I could order from my local indian via their services but I go direct and collect it myself because it's a 5 min walk or a 2 min drive - I'd still collect myself if it was 15 min drive.

If people didn't use them the issue of bad driving/speeding would rapidly be solved - so that's what I do
Good for you, have a clap.

Now if you're finished on your high horse, for most of us, restaurants are located in the town centre and parking is £2.50 an hour plus the 15 mins to drive in if you're lucky (not to mention the fuel as the drive in isn't going to be efficient motorway driving). So that 5 mins easily stretches over an hour or more and then you've got to be careful because going a few minutes over 1 hour at the car park means parking is now £5... when it was already cheaper to get it deliveroo'd on just the fuel and 1 hours parking alone.

Also... delivery drivers are not the source of all bad driving/speeding... so if they disappeared overnight the situation on the roads would still be st.

Magic919

14,530 posts

231 months

-Lummox- said:
Bet it will make bugger all difference as most of the riders won't have registered as using a moped, they will be registered as riding a bicycle.
Isn’t that exactly why it will work? They reach 28mph several times over the 2-3 mile ride and it flags up.

Leon R

3,899 posts

126 months

richhead said:
B'stard Child said:
I can honestly say I have never used any of the uber/just/etc eats services

I could order from my local indian via their services but I go direct and collect it myself because it's a 5 min walk or a 2 min drive - I'd still collect myself if it was 15 min drive.

If people didn't use them the issue of bad driving/speeding would rapidly be solved - so that's what I do
Couldnt agree more, ive never used one either, if i want a takeaway i collect it.
People have got so lazy.
I consider having a takeaway lazy in its self, and yes i do have one on occasion, but to not even pick it up is just wrong.
I travel a lot and the strangest phenomenon I have come across in regards to these food delivery services is just how many people have food delivered to hotels.

sparta6

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

130 months

Spare tyre said:
Where we live is a nice enough place

We are now in the uber eats catchment

Grown men driving mopeds down alleyways - at least you can hear them

I don t think they learnt to drive in the UK so it s probably the norm for them

Not acceptable
They're all on L plates and borrowing their friend Muhammad's driving license. Insurance is therefore invalid

Most are brand new N Max scooters on finance.



UKGov turning a blind eye ?


Red9zero

11,237 posts

87 months

Leon R said:
I travel a lot and the strangest phenomenon I have come across in regards to these food delivery services is just how many people have food delivered to hotels.
When I stayed in hotels regularly, especially the same ones, the menu did get very boring. I had food delivered occasionally, or I would walk to a nearby takeaway. Occasionally I would go to a supermarket and spend my meal allowance on basically just munchies laugh

sparta6

Original Poster:

5,638 posts

130 months

Red9zero said:
Leon R said:
I travel a lot and the strangest phenomenon I have come across in regards to these food delivery services is just how many people have food delivered to hotels.
When I stayed in hotels regularly, especially the same ones, the menu did get very boring. I had food delivered occasionally, or I would walk to a nearby takeaway. Occasionally I would go to a supermarket and spend my meal allowance on basically just munchies laugh
Mush central

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