ISIS in the Co-Op
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I truly wish this was satire
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
ukwill said:
I truly wish this was satire
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
We should incarcerate him for the sake of, you know, everyone else in the country until he decides he wants to fhttps://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
k off somewhere of his own accord. Maybe a return trip on a rubber boat or something like that.
richhead said:
this is why the boats keep coming, we are the laughing stock of the world.
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion. Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. Pit Pony said:
richhead said:
this is why the boats keep coming, we are the laughing stock of the world.
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion. Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. Pit Pony said:
richhead said:
this is why the boats keep coming, we are the laughing stock of the world.
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion. Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. They come because of the free milk and honey.
Pit Pony said:
richhead said:
this is why the boats keep coming, we are the laughing stock of the world.
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion. Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. Let us recall this specimen was originally due for deport from Germany having been jailed for terrorist offences.
He was instrumental in the beheading of Ken Bigley.
Whence he hopped on a small boat.
Was imprisoned and then deportation was declined because he might be under threat *because he was a terrorist* if returned to his country of origin.
The tribunal courts are an absolute scandal.
But we can watch him wandering around Windsor with crappy co op bags.
I would put it politely that a man who was involved in the beheading of a British citizen as part of a mad death cult doesn t quite fit the bill of some b
ds in our society .Pit Pony said:
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion.
Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some bds out in society.
It's people like you that that need to give your heads a good shake . most of the boat migrants are FAMs , one day probably when it's too late you'll realize a dreadful mistake allowing all these "migrants" has been made . Same is happening in Liberal Canada , the migrants charged with rape assault and murder are given reduced sentences so they aren't deported . Ridiculous situation Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. Pit Pony said:
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion.
I'm getting to the point where I don't actually care. Maybe about the women and children, but not the men.They need to be trying to change from within.
Our country has gone through centuries of wars and civil wars to achieve democracy. Our ancestors made sacrifices, including their lives. If people leave, they just make the dictator stronger.
Pit Pony said:
No. The boats keep coming because there are desperate people fleeing thier current existence. Most of them are victims who deserve compassion.
Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some bds out in society.
Yes, i have heard France is grim these days. Some of them don't deserve compassion. Just like the population of the UK. There are some b
ds out in society. 
ukwill said:
I truly wish this was satire
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
Did you actually read the story?https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
Let's summarise. He fled to Germany and served 5 years for being a member of ISIS. He was not deported after release but it's not mentioned if that's a decision of the court or the government. Who ever it was it was in Germany. He now in the UK and was imprisoned for illegal entry, he was released early, no details why, but has now been returned. The UK is now considering his request for asylum. The courts are mentioned but that can only be that the UK must consider the application since no decision has been made.
It's true the ECHR does not allow deportation to a country where a person may face the death penalty. Countries normally get round this by taking the death penalty off the case.
However, it does not stop deportation even if the person maybe a risk if they are deemed to be a significant risk to those in the UK.
So let's see what happens. First the UK needs to rule on his application. Only if it's rejected will the courts be involved. Where the government can say deportation is necessary to avoid risk in the UK.
Mrr T said:
ukwill said:
I truly wish this was satire
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
Did you actually read the story?https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/isis-small-boat-wind...
Under ECHR case law, countries cannot deport an individual to a nation where they face a credible threat of torture or the death penalty, regardless of how heinous their crimes are. As such, we end up with people like this quite literally walking amongst us.
Is this "progressive"?
Let's summarise. He fled to Germany and served 5 years for being a member of ISIS. He was not deported after release but it's not mentioned if that's a decision of the court or the government. Who ever it was it was in Germany. He now in the UK and was imprisoned for illegal entry, he was released early, no details why, but has now been returned. The UK is now considering his request for asylum. The courts are mentioned but that can only be that the UK must consider the application since no decision has been made.
It's true the ECHR does not allow deportation to a country where a person may face the death penalty. Countries normally get round this by taking the death penalty off the case.
However, it does not stop deportation even if the person maybe a risk if they are deemed to be a significant risk to those in the UK.
So let's see what happens. First the UK needs to rule on his application. Only if it's rejected will the courts be involved. Where the government can say deportation is necessary to avoid risk in the UK.
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