Police dogs die in parked vehicle
Police dogs die in parked vehicle
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ali_kat

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32,155 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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BBC said:
Two police dogs have died in a hot vehicle parked outside the headquarters of Nottinghamshire Police.

An RSPCA officer was called to the Sherwood Lodge headquarters in Arnold on Tuesday and found two German shepherd dogs dead.

An independent vet is carrying out post-mortem tests to establish how the animals died.

The incident has been voluntarily referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

'Swiftly reported'

Nottinghamshire's Assistant Chief Constable, Peter Davies, said: "This is a tragic incident and we value the important work our police dogs carry out on a daily basis.

"That is why we swiftly reported this incident to the RSPCA and we will be working with them very closely."

In a statement Nottinghamshire Police said the welfare of all of its animals was "of paramount importance and we endeavour to take every measure possible to ensure their well-being and safety".

The force refused to say what kind of vehicle was involved.

Nottinghamshire vet Andrew Wilson said: "The dehydration would have been a big factor.

"They wouldn't be able to cool themselves because panting wouldn't be effective anymore, there would be no evaporation from the tongue.

"As the core temperature rose as a result of that, and the brain temperature rose, the brain would cease to function and various other organs would fail. This happens certainly within 30 minutes."

A spokesman for the IPCC said the "matter had been referred to them on Tuesday afternoon and they were considering it".
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john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Shame. I never think of police dogs being neglected - their handlers usually get quite close to them don't they? Maybe this is a tragic mixup between shifts or something.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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post in SP&L and get the standard answer "we don't have all the facts here, so it is premature to judge".

B16JUS

2,386 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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I think its really bad, if someone kicks a police dog etc i thought they can get done with assulting a pilice officer etc

but the dogs get left alone for what must have been hours for them to die.

As above i thought the handelers got close so would have thought they cared and loved the dogs

ExChrispy Porker

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258 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Guam said:
Zod said:
post in SP&L and get the standard answer "we don't have all the facts here, so it is premature to judge".
Yeah Von better not come up with that bks on this one, its simple, in heatwaves dont leave kids or dogs in the car, the tosser who did this should be jailed end of imho.
This isn't Monopoly.
There has to be an investigation, and a trial first. Sorry.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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I'd say this is shame.

I very much doubt this was wilful neglect but simply a tragic accident.

I think we need all of the facts though before damning the policemen involved.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Perhaps the dogs looked a bit foreign and refused to stop and jumped the barrier and now all the cctv footage is lost!

I know it looks just like someone left the dogs in a car on a hot day and they died but we don't know all the facts.

shakotan

10,862 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Zod said:
post in SP&L and get the [-]standard[/] sensible answer "we don't have all the facts here, so it is premature to judge".

Gargamel

16,394 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Tragic,

You would like to think that whatever incident the handler was involved in, they could have found a way to get back to the van.


esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Gargamel said:
Tragic,

You would like to think that whatever incident the handler was involved in, they could have found a way to get back to the van.
From one report

".....It is believed the dogs' handler was not on duty at the time and had called in to the force's headquarters at Sherwood Lodge, leaving the dogs to over-heat in the parked car....."

ali_kat

Original Poster:

32,155 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Gargamel said:
You would like to think that whatever incident the handler was involved in, they could have found a way to get back to the van.
They weren't at an incident, if they were if might be excusable!

They were parked outside HQ!

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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shakotan said:
Zod said:
post in SP&L and get the [-]standard[/] sensible answer "we don't have all the facts here, so it is premature to judge".
rolleyes If you know vh, you will know that it is his standard deflection of any potential criticism of the police. He never says "If this is true, then it is appalling and I condemn it, but let's await the outcome of the investigation as there may well be mitigation or an innocent explanation."

Stu R

21,673 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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hope the person(s) responsible get punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Absolutely disgusting that this is happening still, it's not exactly a new discovery that a dog will suffer if left in a hot car. For it to happen to an experienced police dog handler is wholly unacceptable, regardless of the circumstance.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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I bet the handler responsible is feeling bloody awful about this, my BiL was a dog handler with the RAFP and they develop a very close bond with the animals......ginormous fk up of some kind happened here I think

Edited by Invisible man on Thursday 2nd July 11:36

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Zod said:
If you know vh, you will know that it is his standard deflection of any potential criticism of the police. He never says "If this is true, then it is appalling and I condemn it, but let's await the outcome of the investigation as there may well be mitigation or an innocent explanation."
I imagine any plod posting on here have to tread a very fine line between personal opinion and Police impartiality.

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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I am sure the handlers involved used their exemption to put these animals through an agonising death.

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Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Podie said:
Zod said:
If you know vh, you will know that it is his standard deflection of any potential criticism of the police. He never says "If this is true, then it is appalling and I condemn it, but let's await the outcome of the investigation as there may well be mitigation or an innocent explanation."
I imagine any plod posting on here have to tread a very fine line between personal opinion and Police impartiality.
and my line would tread that line with perfect balance. vh's line displays pure complacency.

mike325112

1,074 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Im sure I saw a road wars recently where the dog handlers van had air conditioning for the dogs...

ali_kat

Original Poster:

32,155 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Invisible man said:
I bet the handler responsible is feeling bloody awful about this, my BiL was a dog handler with the RAFP and they develop a very close bond with the animals......ginormous fk up of some kind happened here I think
I'm sure they are.

I'm certain that (from what I know) they look on these dogs as their pets (IIRC many go to live with their handlers once retired).

I'm absolutley positive that if my assumptions above are the case then these Police Dog Handlers feel as bad as the owners who leave their beloved dogs in their cars to die!

What I hope is that, in turn, they are treated the way they would treat the 'mere pet owner', and don't get 'special' treatment because they are Officers of the 'Law'

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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mike325112 said:
Im sure I saw a road wars recently where the dog handlers van had air conditioning for the dogs...
In a report from the beeb the force refuse to say what vehicle was involved...maybe a civvie one and not a BiB one?