I've finally complained to the BBC

I've finally complained to the BBC

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cazzer

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8,883 posts

250 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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Not really a piss boiler....but I'd just had enough bks off the BBC today.
So, while not an earth shattering issue...I sent this....

I understand the BBC has decided the argument for man made global warming is decided, but I object to the blatent brainwashing of children with patently incorrect information.
An article on this afternoons newsround about bamboo bicycles was the worst bit of reporting I have seen for a long time, adult of child centred.

The ecological benefits of this bamboo bicycle were pushed again and again, irrespective of the fact the bamboo is harvested in the far east, then transported to california where the bicycles are made, then transported from california to the UK.

In what way can that manufacturing process possibly by described as ecologically sound.

Present a balanced view for once BBC please.

wrightyrs

446 posts

221 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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Couldn't agree more.

If more people bothered perhaps the BBC wouldn't be as biased as it is.

.:ian:.

1,968 posts

205 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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wrightyrs said:
Couldn't agree more.

If more people bothered perhaps the BBC wouldn't be as biased as it is.
But thanks to the unique way the BBC is funded, they won't give a fk.

hairykrishna

13,199 posts

205 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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Whereas describing it as ecologically sound is fking stupid, it's probably more ecologically sound than the manufacture of a normal bike. You can ship a bike a fair distance on the energy required to extract a bikes worth of aluminium. Plus, most bikes are shipped in from China these days anyway.

Perfect hippy cash in though. I bet the bloke making these in California is minted these days.


Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

236 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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A bamboo frame won't last anywhere near as long as a metal frame, and the latter may be recycled.

hairykrishna

13,199 posts

205 months

Monday 13th July 2009
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Parrot of Doom said:
A bamboo frame won't last anywhere near as long as a metal frame, and the latter may be recycled.
True. I wonder how long the bamboo ones last?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

236 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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In this country I'd guess no more than five years, before the joints started to rot. It would only take water down the seattube, and that isn't preventable.

fathomfive

9,969 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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hairykrishna said:
Parrot of Doom said:
A bamboo frame won't last anywhere near as long as a metal frame, and the latter may be recycled.
True. I wonder how long the bamboo ones last?
Till you cycle past a hungry Panda...

Digga

40,463 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Well bamboo is a naturally ocurring and replaceable material - it consumes CO2 as it grows (and it grows f***ing fast in some places) - whereas stell or aluminium is not.

Most bikes are made in the Far East anyway these days, so the fact they're shippped is a given. Bike don't weigh much though and in their transport packaging, they're not terribly bulky either.

As for the Beeb, yes I'm sick of all their crap. I was listening to the TV (it was on in the next room) last night with all the scaremongering about Pig Flu. I think it's the latest polit bureau wheeze to distract us from the real chaos that's ongoing - the scandalous behaviour of MPs and the dire state of teh UK's finances.

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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fathomfive said:
hairykrishna said:
Parrot of Doom said:
A bamboo frame won't last anywhere near as long as a metal frame, and the latter may be recycled.
True. I wonder how long the bamboo ones last?
Till you cycle past a hungry Panda...
I can see a Daily Star headline sometime in the near future "Panda Ate my Bicycle".

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Well done, i whole heartedly agree.

Bamboo is stronger then steel in some cases. If you have ever witnessed chinese building styles you will know what i mean....

scaffolding......

Mclovin

1,679 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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your complaint will be looked at if enough people feel the same way and the government need to draw peoples attention away from something bad they have done...

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Wasn't there a plane referred to as "The Bamboo Bomber"?

Who'll be the first person to pilot a bamboo jet through the sound barrier.

Anyone remember this?

"Me ol' bam-boo, me ol' bam-boo
You'd better never bother with me ol' bam-boo.
You can have me hat or me bum-ber-shoo
But you'd better never bother with me ol' bam-boo".

Diderot

7,409 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...


'I spoke to a professor of environmental sciences, who referred to the bike’s “ecological rucksack”: the upstream work and rock shifted to make the aluminium frame, the steel handlebars and other components. He tinkered with an equation, smiled a sad little smile, and gave me the bad news. I’ll need to do the same commute every day for about 87 years before that bike “saves” an ounce of petrol.'


TedMaul

2,092 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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If you want to see some real BBC eco-twaddle directed at kids, you should watch The Green Balloon Club on Cbeebies. Just hearing the theme tune makes me want to rip the heads of those pretentious drama school offspring of guardian reading muppets.

Big Fluffy One

147 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Digga said:
Well bamboo is a naturally ocurring and replaceable material - it consumes CO2 as it grows.
And it releases same CO2 when it's dead.

Wadeski

8,184 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Diderot said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...


'I spoke to a professor of environmental sciences, who referred to the bike’s “ecological rucksack”: the upstream work and rock shifted to make the aluminium frame, the steel handlebars and other components. He tinkered with an equation, smiled a sad little smile, and gave me the bad news. I’ll need to do the same commute every day for about 87 years before that bike “saves” an ounce of petrol.'

Thats a daft analogy - you dont take into account the manufacturing impact of a car when you measure its CO2 output, so why should you of a bicycle?

eddie1980

419 posts

190 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Wadeski said:
Thats a daft analogy - you dont take into account the manufacturing impact of a car when you measure its CO2 output, so why should you of a bicycle?
Because it assumes the bike is an additional requirement, as per the article. If you already have a car and require retaining one, then the bike comes at an optional additional cost, one that could be avoided by simply continuing to use the car and not having both.

gamefreaks

1,978 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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TedMaul said:
If you want to see some real BBC eco-twaddle directed at kids, you should watch The Green Balloon Club on Cbeebies. Just hearing the theme tune makes me want to rip the heads of those pretentious drama school offspring of guardian reading muppets.
Cbeebies is absolutely horrendous!

It’s a tour-de-force in vomit-inducing political correctness.

Won’t have it on in the house. Our kids much prefer Ben10 and Tom and Jerry!

Diderot

7,409 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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eddie1980 said:
Wadeski said:
Thats a daft analogy - you dont take into account the manufacturing impact of a car when you measure its CO2 output, so why should you of a bicycle?
Because it assumes the bike is an additional requirement, as per the article. If you already have a car and require retaining one, then the bike comes at an optional additional cost, one that could be avoided by simply continuing to use the car and not having both.
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