Michael Shields to be freed

[Skipppy]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Attempted...

I've followed this for a while.

He is a Liverpool FC fan convicted of murder after the 2005 Champions League win. Another fan came forward and admitted the crime but the authorities in Bulgaria would not free Shields until the fan who admitted the crime took his place - this other guy declined the offer of course.

Good news. However, you have to wonder why Jack Straw sat on his hands up until this point.

[Uhura_Fighter]

It is all st. Michael should have been freed years ago.

Thank fk he will be/is now free.

[Oakey]

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

[Uhura_Fighter]

Oakey said:

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

As I understand nothing will happen to him. Going back a few years he refused to travel to Bulgaria so his "evidence" has never been heard. A signed confession too.

The trial and what happened since has been complete bks - till today

[AndrewW-G]

Skipppy said:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Attempted...

I've followed this for a while.

He is a Liverpool FC fan convicted of murder after the 2005 Champions League win. Another fan came forward and admitted the crime but the authorities in Bulgaria would not free Shields until the fan who admitted the crime took his place - this other guy declined the offer of course.

Good news. However, you have to wonder why Jack Straw sat on his hands up until this point.

jack straw @ the time said said:

There's no oil in Liverpool and it's not on the politcal world stage so fk em, what do I care what happens to innocent scousers

just yet another example of labour's complete and utter contempt for the people of the UK, the only vocal labour MP on this seemed to be Frank Field (who should be the only labour mp not put up against the wall when the revolution comes)

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 9th September 11:16

[flasher]

Have to say this is fantastic news. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the evidence, that Michael Shields is totally innocent.

[Oakey]

Uhura_Fighter said:

Oakey said:

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

As I understand nothing will happen to him. Going back a few years he refused to travel to Bulgaria so his "evidence" has never been heard. A signed confession too.

The trial and what happened since has been complete bks - till today

Wait a minute, so let me get this straight, this Sankey geezer from Liverpool attempts to kill someone in Bulgaria, comes back here and confesses yet nothing is going to happen to him? Yet some muppet 'hacks' (and that term is giving him far too much credit) into US military computers and we extradite him for trial?

[esselte]

Oakey said:

Uhura_Fighter said:

Oakey said:

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

As I understand nothing will happen to him. Going back a few years he refused to travel to Bulgaria so his "evidence" has never been heard. A signed confession too.

The trial and what happened since has been complete bks - till today

Wait a minute, so let me get this straight, this Sankey geezer from Liverpool attempts to kill someone in Bulgaria, comes back here and confesses yet nothing is going to happen to him? Yet some muppet 'hacks' (and that term is giving him far too much credit) into US military computers and we extradite him for trial?

Do we have an extradition treaty with Bulgaria? Or is it automatic because of the EU?

Edited by esselte on Wednesday 9th September 12:28

[The jiffle king]

flasher said:

Have to say this is fantastic news. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the evidence, that Michael Shields is totally innocent.

Great news for Michael, I´ve followed this over the years and there is much evidence that he is not the killer and totally innocent. Lets hope he gets a few quid from one of the papers for selling his story as compensation and then can get on with his life.

T-J-K

[Oakey]

esselte said:

Oakey said:

Uhura_Fighter said:

Oakey said:

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

As I understand nothing will happen to him. Going back a few years he refused to travel to Bulgaria so his "evidence" has never been heard. A signed confession too.

The trial and what happened since has been complete bks - till today

Wait a minute, so let me get this straight, this Sankey geezer from Liverpool attempts to kill someone in Bulgaria, comes back here and confesses yet nothing is going to happen to him? Yet some muppet 'hacks' (and that term is giving him far too much credit) into US military computers and we extradite him for trial?

Do we have an extradition treaty with Bulgaria? Or is it automatic because of the EU?

Edited by esselte on Wednesday 9th September 12:28

Article said:

The Extradition Act 2003 divides the UK's extradition partners into two categories. Part 1 territories are those EU member states who, like the UK, operate the European Arrest Warrant (EAW) procedure. These are:

Austria; Belgium; Cyprus; Czech Republic; Denmark; Estonia; Finland; France; Germany; Greece; Hungary; Ireland; Italy; Latvia; Lithuania; Luxembourg; Malta; the Netherlands; Poland; Portugal; Slovakia; Slovenia; Spain; and Sweden

Part 2 territories include those Members of the Council of Europe who are not in the EU and are party to the European Convention on Extradition; Commonwealth territories; and bilateral extradition treaty partners, such as the United States. These are:

Albania; Andorra; Antigua and Barbuda; Armenia; Argentina; Australia; Azerbaijan; The Bahamas; Bangladesh; Barbados; Belize; Bolivia; Bosnia and Herzegovina; Botswana; Brazil; Brunei; Bulgaria; Canada; Chile; Colombia; Cook Islands; Croatia; Cuba; Dominica; Ecuador; El Salvador; Fiji; The Gambia; Georgia; Ghana; Grenada; Guatemala; Guyana; Haiti; Hong Kong Special Administrative Region *; Iceland; India; Iraq; Israel; Jamaica; Kenya; Kiribati; Lesotho; Liberia; Liechtenstein; the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia; Malawi; Malaysia; Maldives; Mauritius; Mexico; Moldova; Monaco; Nauru; New Zealand; Nicaragua; Nigeria; Norway; Panama; Papua New Guinea; Paraguay; Peru; Romania; Russian Federation; Saint Christopher and Nevis; Saint Lucia; Saint Vincent and the Grenadines; San Marino; Serbia and Montenegro; Seychelles; Sierra Leone; Singapore; Solomon Islands; South Africa; Sri Lanka; Swaziland; Switzerland; Tanzania; Thailand; Tonga; Trinidad and Tobago; Turkey; Tuvalu; Uganda; Ukraine; United States of America; Uruguay; Vanuatu; Western Samoa; Zambia and Zimbabwe.

that was as of 2006, but it would seem we do.

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 9th September 12:34

[esselte]

Oakey said:

esselte said:

Oakey said:

Uhura_Fighter said:

Oakey said:

So what's going to happen to the guy who confessed it was him?

As I understand nothing will happen to him. Going back a few years he refused to travel to Bulgaria so his "evidence" has never been heard. A signed confession too.

The trial and what happened since has been complete bks - till today

Wait a minute, so let me get this straight, this Sankey geezer from Liverpool attempts to kill someone in Bulgaria, comes back here and confesses yet nothing is going to happen to him? Yet some muppet 'hacks' (and that term is giving him far too much credit) into US military computers and we extradite him for trial?

Do we have an extradition treaty with Bulgaria? Or is it automatic because of the EU?

Edited by esselte on Wednesday 9th September 12:28

Article said:

The Extradition Act 2003 divides the UK's extradition partners into two categories. Part 1 territories are those EU member states who, like the UK, operate the European Arrest Warrant (EAW) procedure. These are:

Austria; Belgium; Cyprus; Czech Republic; Denmark; Estonia; Finland; France; Germany; Greece; Hungary; Ireland; Italy; Latvia; Lithuania; Luxembourg; Malta; the Netherlands; Poland; Portugal; Slovakia; Slovenia; Spain; and Sweden

Part 2 territories include those Members of the Council of Europe who are not in the EU and are party to the European Convention on Extradition; Commonwealth territories; and bilateral extradition treaty partners, such as the United States. These are:

Albania; Andorra; Antigua and Barbuda; Armenia; Argentina; Australia; Azerbaijan; The Bahamas; Bangladesh; Barbados; Belize; Bolivia; Bosnia and Herzegovina; Botswana; Brazil; Brunei; Bulgaria; Canada; Chile; Colombia; Cook Islands; Croatia; Cuba; Dominica; Ecuador; El Salvador; Fiji; The Gambia; Georgia; Ghana; Grenada; Guatemala; Guyana; Haiti; Hong Kong Special Administrative Region *; Iceland; India; Iraq; Israel; Jamaica; Kenya; Kiribati; Lesotho; Liberia; Liechtenstein; the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia; Malawi; Malaysia; Maldives; Mauritius; Mexico; Moldova; Monaco; Nauru; New Zealand; Nicaragua; Nigeria; Norway; Panama; Papua New Guinea; Paraguay; Peru; Romania; Russian Federation; Saint Christopher and Nevis; Saint Lucia; Saint Vincent and the Grenadines; San Marino; Serbia and Montenegro; Seychelles; Sierra Leone; Singapore; Solomon Islands; South Africa; Sri Lanka; Swaziland; Switzerland; Tanzania; Thailand; Tonga; Trinidad and Tobago; Turkey; Tuvalu; Uganda; Ukraine; United States of America; Uruguay; Vanuatu; Western Samoa; Zambia and Zimbabwe.

that was as of 2006, but it would seem we do.

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 9th September 12:34

So all it needs is for the Bulgarian authorities to ask for him to be sent?

[AndrewW-G]

esselte said:

So all it needs is for the Bulgarian authorities to ask for him to be sent?

looks that way, got to wonder why the government havent pressed for this to happen . . . . .

[bigandclever]

At last...

[OnTheOverrun]

flasher said:

Have to say this is fantastic news. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the evidence, that Michael Shields is totally innocent.

Could you point me towards this evidence so I can have look at it please?

[bigandclever]

OnTheOverrun said:

flasher said:

Have to say this is fantastic news. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the evidence, that Michael Shields is totally innocent.

Could you point me towards this evidence so I can have look at it please?

It's not so much the evidence against him as the lack of evidence against him, particularly in light of Graham Sankey's confession.

Have a read of this... gives some insights but isn't the court document.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/d...

[OnTheOverrun]

bigandclever said:

OnTheOverrun said:

flasher said:

Have to say this is fantastic news. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the evidence, that Michael Shields is totally innocent.

Could you point me towards this evidence so I can have look at it please?

It's not so much the evidence against him as the lack of evidence against him, particularly in light of Graham Sankey's confession.

Have a read of this... gives some insights but isn't the court document.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/d...

I really don't know much about the case, but a lot of people on here say they have seen 'evidence' that makes them sure he is innocent so I wanted to see it and see if I came to the same conclusion as them.

[cazzer]

Helped him get rid of the puppy fat though

[dreamz]

awesome news - fantastic for the family - i was in blackburn and i didnt realise the whole meeting outside was going to be as big as it is now.

i just thought they were protesting

[Parrot of Doom]

AndrewW-G said:

esselte said:

So all it needs is for the Bulgarian authorities to ask for him to be sent?

looks that way, got to wonder why the government havent pressed for this to happen . . . . .

Given the appalling state of the Bulgarian justice system, personally I'd rather they didn't.

[Emeye]

No one very forthcoming with any of this evidence that proves him innocent.

On Radio 4 last night the summary of the evidence used by Jack Straw to allow his pardon was that "Some of Shield's relatives were witness to a vocal confession from another Liverpool fan". Not exactly compelling is it?

This makes an interesting read:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1495692/Inn...

Oh, and how many of the people on here celebrating his release are Liverpool fans?