Charlie Sheen - tactless pillock.

[Bill]

What is he thinking?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-...

[mybrainhurts]

.....DURRRRRR

[limpsfield]

Looking at the comments below, the high rated ones all support the conspiracy theories. I suspect a conspiracy amongst the conspiracists

[Monki]

Ok I've noted two things

1) Denise Richards.....lovely baps

2) Obama....he looks like an alien from 'Mars Attacks!' in that photo

[grumbledoak]

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

[Bill]

grumbledoak said:

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

[ascayman]

Bill said:

grumbledoak said:

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

they probably just used the same people they did for the 'moon landing'

[Marf]

Bill said:

grumbledoak said:

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

Playing devils advocate here, they haven't kept it quiet. There are thousands of people who claim its an inside job, including many scientists, engineers etc.

Plausible deniability is the phrase that comes to mind.

[Bill]

ascayman said:

Bill said:

grumbledoak said:

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

they probably just used the same people they did for the 'moon landing'

At least they're known to be reliable

[Oakey]

Bill said:

grumbledoak said:

I find it harder to believe how quick many are to rule it out! If you consider how wealthy, powerful, and ruthless you have to be to get into these positions of power, the idea that "they would not do such a thing!" is patently naive. If you also consider just how conveniently the attack served the purposes of those in power...

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

and yet most people have absolutely no trouble with believing a bunch of dirty terrorists in a cave thousands of miles away conspired and succeeded in pulling this attack off.

[grumbledoak]

Bill said:

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

You are rather leaping to conclusions yourself. "of this magnitude"? 19 people, all dead? You'd only need one man you trust to make the phone calls...

[Oakey]

grumbledoak said:

Bill said:

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

You are rather leaping to conclusions yourself. "of this magnitude"? 19 people, all dead? You'd only need one man you trust to make the phone calls...

Aren't Mossad infamous for having operations carried out by proxy unknown to those actually doing the job? And the CIA, they've never done anything questionable, ever

[Marf]

Oakey said:

grumbledoak said:

Bill said:

And quite how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude quiet.

You are rather leaping to conclusions yourself. "of this magnitude"? 19 people, all dead? You'd only need one man you trust to make the phone calls...

Aren't Mossad infamous for having operations carried out by proxy unknown to those actually doing the job? And the CIA, they've never done anything questionable, ever

Nah its not like they funded Bin Laden and co in the seventies/eighties, or tried to submit plans to Kennedy involving false flag attacks on US planes that would then be blamed on Cuba to give an excuse to invade.

[Rollin]

FFS Here we go again.

[XJR40]

I say fair play to Sheen for saying what he thinks out loud rather than keeping quiet on the subject.

[thehawk]

There is almost certainly a cover-up somewhere with 9-11 though, whether it was intelligence failures or worse, you can bet there has been a lot of arse-covering since it happened.

[thehawk]

There is almost certainly a cover-up somewhere with 9-11 though, whether it was intelligence failures or worse, you can bet there has been a lot of arse-covering since it happened.

[Marf]

thehawk said:

There is almost certainly a cover-up somewhere with 9-11 though, whether it was intelligence failures or worse, you can bet there has been a lot of arse-covering since it happened.

Exactly, the fact that NORAD ignored the hijacked planes flying outside of their designated flight path is a massive fk up. They had tracked and intercepted 30 or 40 planes in the 12 months running up to 9/11 IIRC.

[hairykrishna]

There's varying degrees of daftness in 9/11 conspiracy theories. The stupidest are the ‘controlled demolition with explosives’/’not passenger jets’ theories. These can be dismissed out of hand as they’re entirely ridiculous. The ‘US had some involvement’ ones are less easy to dismiss. Obviously the CIA funded Bin Laden et al back in the day. They were our allies against the dirty commies after all and presumably they still have contacts. The attacks did give Bush, Cheney and their minions perfect justification for all kinds of stuff. Bit of a stretch to claim they organized the whole thing though.

[Marf]

hairykrishna said:

There's varying degrees of daftness in 9/11 conspiracy theories. The stupidest are the ‘controlled demolition with explosives’/’not passenger jets’ theories. These can be dismissed out of hand as they’re entirely ridiculous. The ‘US had some involvement’ ones are less easy to dismiss. Obviously the CIA funded Bin Laden et al back in the day. They were our allies against the dirty commies after all and presumably they still have contacts. The attacks did give Bush, Cheney and their minions perfect justification for all kinds of stuff. Bit of a stretch to claim they organized the whole thing though.

Agree with HK, its far more likely if, and its a mahoooosive if, there was any foul play, it was more a case of the event being allowed to happen, rather than anyone in the US administration/security services having a direct hand in it.