Man jailed for letting (3 year old girl) girl smoke
Man jailed for letting (3 year old girl) girl smoke
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james_tigerwoods

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16,341 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Just what on earth is wrong with some people??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/83...

BBC News said:
A man has been jailed for 18 months for allowing a three-year-old child to smoke.

Newcastle Crown Court heard that the girl asked Graeme Conroy, 31, for a cigarette and when she started smoking it was filmed on a mobile phone.

The court heard that the child had smoked three cigarettes before the filming took place.

Conroy, from Ashington, Northumberland, pleaded guilty to causing unnecessary suffering or injury to health.

illmonkey

19,212 posts

214 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Crazy, right?

I mean, what kind of idiot would film it? Surly he knew it'd be evidence in a court case.

anonymous-user

70 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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illmonkey said:
Crazy, right?

I mean, what kind of idiot would film it? Surly he knew it'd be evidence in a court case.
Unfortunately this is what passes for normal behaviour in Ashington. It is not exactly the academic capital of the world.

omgus

7,305 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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illmonkey said:
Crazy, right?

I mean, what kind of idiot would film it? Surly he knew it'd be evidence in a court case.
rofl

Now you put it like that i can see that the filming was the really stupid action there.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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complete utter tt but 18 months jail seems a bit harsh and unneccessary ffs

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Ridiculous thing to do followed by an equally ridiculous sentence.

Dave^

7,715 posts

269 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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He deserves 18months for being so dumb as to tell someone to film it.....

I mean c'mon.... how fking dumb?!?!

bazking69

8,620 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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He sounds like an oxygen thief on quite a few levels...

Jasandjules

71,233 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Does it really warrant more jail time that a burglar might get?

It was stupid, well, beyond stupid. But still.

ShadownINja

78,759 posts

298 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Such is nature. Any piece of st can breed providing he can fool another piece of st to spread her legs.

(I know it doesn't say it is his daughter but that isn't the point. One day he will have a 3 year old to ruin again.)

Edited by ShadownINja on Thursday 15th October 17:23

paddyhasneeds

59,536 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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I can't get my head around this. I could walk out my front door right now, pick someone at random and kick seven shades of st out of them and probably get off with less than this chap.

Not excusing his actions, but we do seem to have one seriously fked up "justice" system in this country.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Cruelty to a child and he gets just 18 months?

The question you have to ask is why the other offences are punished so lightly not why is this one punished harshly.

There could be all kinds of factors, his previous, his relationship to the child, his likelihood to re-offend and that child cruelty offences will rightfully carry harsher weighting than burglary as would a GBH offence because a person is injured. In this case one who is completely at the mercy of the offender.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Why don't the parents of obese children also get prison time?

I know which kills more.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Parrot of Doom said:
Why don't the parents of obese children also get prison time?

I know which kills more.
Deiberate harm like this is quite clear. I do believe however it not unheard of for parents of such children to be looked at for neglect / lose the kids.

I think this chaps actions show a complete disregard for the child and a willingness to do anything for a cheap laugh? What next?

As I said you don't know what else they had on him.

cazzer

8,883 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Its a bks case anyway.
There's no way a three year old child could "smoke" a cigarette.
Puff on it and blow the smoke out perhaps, but not "smoke" it.
It's still a stupid thing to do but a major over reaction.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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cazzer said:
Its a bks case anyway.
There's no way a three year old child could "smoke" a cigarette.
Puff on it and blow the smoke out perhaps, but not "smoke" it.
It's still a stupid thing to do but a major over reaction.
Why?

cazzer

8,883 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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Because they couldn't inhale the smoke, they'd cough their poor little lungs out.
You have to work at smokin smile

Edited to add, unless it's was a silk cut ultra smile



Edited by cazzer on Thursday 15th October 19:56

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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cazzer said:
Because they couldn't inhale the smoke, they'd cough their poor little lungs out.
You have to work at smokin smile

Edited to add, unless it's was a silk cut ultra smile



Edited by cazzer on Thursday 15th October 19:56
No why is it an over reaction to child cruelty and abuse of a position of trust?

Its symbolic of his total disregard to that child and its welfare IMHO.

Having dealt with child abuse cases and child neglect cases as well as one or two child deaths due to actions/neglect I probably have a bias view on the matter.


wolves_wanderer

12,837 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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They grow up so fast these days...

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th October 2009
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[quote=Mr_annie_vxr]

I think this chaps actions show a complete disregard for the child and a willingness to do anything for a cheap laugh? What next?


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driving through a puddle?!

if he sat there and made the child smoke ev cigarette completly then he deserves his punishment. If the child had one puff is it any worse than the millions of people who might give their child a bit of alchohol in jest? he was a tt and deserves punishment but 18 months seems a lot not to mention the huge cost