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Fezant Pluckah

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1,711 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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FFS £77 BILLION in 6 months....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/63857...

Vicky Redwood, of Capital Economics, said: "At this rate, borrowing still looks likely to reach over £200 billion, compared to Alistair Darling's £175 billion forecast."




Edited by Fezant Pluckah on Tuesday 20th October 17:28

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I can raise a few billion more than the value of the assets blinky is going to sell.

1.) Working tax credits. Its your choice to have a child, you should bear the burdon.
2.) £192 at 26 weeks to buy healthy food. No its not, its a bribe for the scum of society to buy their vote.

There, that should do it. Oh and pay all benefits in stamps/vouchers. That will incentivise people to work. Its a human right to food and water, not to free cash to spend on what you wish. Vouchers are a simple solution.

Oh and rather than wasting tax payers money by deporting Iraqi's back to Iraq, then flying them back with Iraq refuses to accept them. Just dump them there. They are Iraqi nationals not ours so why fly them back and then ask the Iraqi's. Just drop em off. Problem solved.


Fittster

20,120 posts

229 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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So you want big cuts in spending 8 months before an election?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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It's a good job winky hasnt spent the past 12 years lecturing people on the importance of thrift and frugality, when it turns out the biggest spend thrift lunatic is one G W Brown of 10 Downing St furious

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Fittster said:
So you want big cuts in spending 8 months before an election?
Call me insane but i want some politicians who think about more THEN THE NEXT fkING ELECTION run the country you fking wkers

turbobloke

112,770 posts

276 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
It's a good job winky hasnt spent the past 12 years lecturing people on the importance of thrift and frugality...
Has he put Prudence on the game yet? After the fire sale announcement she must be fearing the worst.

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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stigmundfreud said:
I can raise a few billion more than the value of the assets blinky is going to sell.

1.) Working tax credits. Its your choice to have a child, you should bear the burdon.
2.) £192 at 26 weeks to buy healthy food. No its not, its a bribe for the scum of society to buy their vote.

There, that should do it. Oh and pay all benefits in stamps/vouchers. That will incentivise people to work. Its a human right to food and water, not to free cash to spend on what you wish. Vouchers are a simple solution.

Oh and rather than wasting tax payers money by deporting Iraqi's back to Iraq, then flying them back with Iraq refuses to accept them. Just dump them there. They are Iraqi nationals not ours so why fly them back and then ask the Iraqi's. Just drop em off. Problem solved.
Perhaps they could call a halt to the future jobs fund (Buying votes from the hopeless) too. Should save a couple of billion.

Jalopnik

1,271 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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thinfourth2 said:
Fittster said:
So you want big cuts in spending 8 months before an election?
Call me insane but i want some politicians who think about more THEN THE NEXT fkING ELECTION run the country you fking wkers
Wrong time of the month? Calm down dear, it's only a forum discussion... biggrin

JMGS4

8,842 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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stigmundfreud said:
Oh and pay all benefits in stamps/vouchers. That will incentivise people to work. Its a human right to food and water, not to free cash to spend on what you wish. Vouchers are a simple solution.
Vouchers are NOT a solution, as the doleites just go down to the corner shop and buy fags and beer with them.
California does it better, the doleites get a (credit)card which they swipe which pays ONLY for food (no soap, fags, loopaper or anything else). The check is easy as the supermarket ONLY gets paid on what is on the till receipt that is food... no swindles, no fag-smoking beer-swilling fatty doleites at state cost!

Mind you that is just tooo easy for the current bunch of twunts who are running the country.........

thehawk

9,335 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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stigmundfreud said:
Its a human right to food and water
Is it?

thehawk

9,335 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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stigmundfreud said:
Its a human right to food and water
Is it?

anonymousposter

131 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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thehawk said:
stigmundfreud said:
Its a human right to food and water
Is it?
Blimey.

smack

9,755 posts

207 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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anonymous said:
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He is just toeing Brown/Labour's party line... Just keep blaming the banks.

t84

6,941 posts

210 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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I think you're disillusioned if you think vouchers will make people think "Oh, I better get a job now".

More will just turn to crime.

smack

9,755 posts

207 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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anonymous said:
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That page must of been accidentally dropped out of the job spec.

smile

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Brown is now operating a scorched earth policy.

He can't make things better so he will ensure that whoever wins the next election can't either.


anonymousposter

131 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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So those proposing the voucher option, how exactly does this work?

Which stores will participate?
Who will pay for the software and infrastructure changes to stores to enable this?
What about small shops, or should only big, multi-site retailers benefit?
And what items do you allow for purchase? Food? What kind? Medicine? Household cleaning products?
How would you prevent fraud taking place with stolen/copied vouchers?
How would vouchers be handled, would you employ an army of people somewhere to re-imburse the retailers? And if so, wouldn't this cost more money.

And most of all....... how on earth does this actually save any money?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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anonymousposter said:
So those proposing the voucher option, how exactly does this work?

Which stores will participate?
Who will pay for the software and infrastructure changes to stores to enable this?
What about small shops, or should only big, multi-site retailers benefit?
And what items do you allow for purchase? Food? What kind? Medicine? Household cleaning products?
How would you prevent fraud taking place with stolen/copied vouchers?
How would vouchers be handled, would you employ an army of people somewhere to re-imburse the retailers? And if so, wouldn't this cost more money.

And most of all....... how on earth does this actually save any money?
benefit payment card similar to a debit card (have seen pensioners in the post office with something similar)with benefits automaticaly credited, could be run by one of the now government owned banks, accepted at all supermarkets signed up to the scheme, only accepted on purchases of non VAT qualifying goods, costs associated with accepting the cards paid for by the supermarkets (can you see any NOT wanting to have almost guaranteed foot fall increases) yes I know there are several flaws, but it's just an idea on how it could be run.

Dr.Doofenshmirtz

16,202 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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anonymousposter said:
And most of all....... how on earth does this actually save any money?
You pay them less benefit, since the only stuff they can buy is food (and clothes I guess)...no alcohol, fags, pub, McD's, betting etc etc

collateral

7,238 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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This 'buying votes' thing comes up every time someone mentions benefits.

Does anyone actually have stats on how many voters are unemployed?