A Perfect Crime?

[thehawk]

What would you do - would it be worth the risk? Looks like he has planned it very well, is alone (so less weak links etc) but also he's going to be known to every police force in Europe and probably hunted for many years, if not the rest of his life.

But then what would be the jail time if caught?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe...

[anonymous-user]

49 large sacks of banknotes are going to take some shifting and some hiding. And won't be easy to shift out of the country. Were the notes new or used? If new the numbers will be sequential and listed and it will make it hard to spend the money. One assumes he had a plan but I'd be surprised if he remains at large for long.

The perpetrators of these huge robberies invariably get caught but not always. 2 of the great train robbers were never identified or caught. They were "full" members of the team and each had a full "whack" of £150k. £150k in 1963 must be worth £3 million at todays money. A nice tickle to have got away with.

[Dunk76]

thehawk said:

But then what would be the jail time if caught?

According to Sky News, as there was no assault/violence/threats made the maximum term he could serve is 3 years....

[Oakey]

Dunk76 said:

thehawk said:

But then what would be the jail time if caught?

According to Sky News, as there was no assault/violence/threats made the maximum term he could serve is 3 years....

Smart man. Definitely worth doing the crime for.

[AndrewW-G]

So nothing stopping him, hidding the cash somehwere the french police cant get it, doing the time (no doubt reduced to 50-60% of the 3 years for good behaviour) and then living happily ever after.......... got to say I'd be tempted to swap a year and a half in prison for that much cash

[Dunk76]

Plus everybody is going to be your best mate inside.

[JohnnyJones]

The notes are untraceable.

Good luck.

Edited by JohnnyJones on Saturday 7th November 21:56

[tegwin]

Work for a company like that for long enough and im sure you figure out how to get around the security locks and ink die bombs...


Good luck to him I say!

[Frederick]

tegwin said:

you figure out how to get around the ink die bombs...

Allegedly submerge the container in a large tank of water, force it open under the water and the dye discharges into the water rather than coating the notes, then simply dry off the moolah and off you go.

Whether it would work or not, I don't know. If you did it in enough water, it would surely dilute the dye enough as to make next to no stain on the notes?

[hairykrishna]

Frederick said:

tegwin said:

you figure out how to get around the ink die bombs...

Allegedly submerge the container in a large tank of water, force it open under the water and the dye discharges into the water rather than coating the notes, then simply dry off the moolah and off you go.

Whether it would work or not, I don't know. If you did it in enough water, it would surely dilute the dye enough as to make next to no stain on the notes?

I'm not sure that'd work. I think the dye would be in a high concentration next to the notes for long enough to stain them. I remember seeing on some documentary that robbers used an industrial freezer to freeze the whole thing before cracking it open. Apparently home ones don't get cold enough.

[Asterix]

I assume the dosh was insured anyway?

Who actually loses out on this one if it is.

I've always admired clever crimes - providing no one gets hurt.

[anonymous-user]

Asterix said:

I assume the dosh was insured anyway?

Who actually loses out on this one if it is.

JC do you really mean that? You condone insurance fraud as well then presumably?

The answer is we all lose out.

[Asterix]

Hmmmm - I don't condone crime at all and my above comment is badly worded.

However, some of the greatest heists historically have been great examples of organisation, intelligence and having balls the size of grapefruits.

Sometimes you can't help admiring that.

[Ayahuasca]

Getting the money out of France?

The Islamic Hawala system would be pretty foolproof. Hand over the dosh to a Hawala guy in Marseilles, pick it up (less a moderate cut) from another one anywhere in the world.

[Lost soul]

it is a huge amount of cash to transport - hide , and he did not get much of a head start did he

[jas xjr]

Ayahuasca said:

Getting the money out of France?

The Islamic Hawala system would be pretty foolproof. Hand over the dosh to a Hawala guy in Marseilles, pick it up (less a moderate cut) from another one anywhere in the world.

not just islamic, I could do this for transfer of funds from england to india.

Also when was the last time anybody refused a note because it had dye on it. Been in retail for a long time and there are a lot of these in circulation.

[thehawk]

Maybe he wasn't even working alone, he could well have been involved or approached by criminal gangs, of which many could assist with laundering it. The purchase of a Ferrari is interesting, especially on £20K pa.

Don't know how the die system works, but I suppose he may have found out how to bypass it.

Edited by thehawk on Sunday 8th November 12:39

[The Hypno-Toad]

Perfect crime?

I would have thought it would be much easier to get elected a British MP and fiddle your expenses? I mean, they all seem to be getting away with it?

[Ayahuasca]

thehawk said:

Don't know how the die system works, but I suppose he may have found out how to bypass it.

This system is pretty terminal when accomplices get greedy.

[bakerjuk]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Perfect crime?

I would have thought it would be much easier to get elected a British MP and fiddle your expenses? I mean, they all seem to be getting away with it?

When you make the rules, you can bend them all you like.. I thought the house of lords would have been involved here. Or are they just as corrupt?