Archbishop Tells Trade Unions "Tax Is Good"
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/art...
Times said:
The Archbishop of Canterbury has said that higher taxation could be used as a means of improving the human “habitat”.
Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
I know his book of mythology says that Jesus was nice to the tax collector and that it's blessed to be poor, but perhaps he should be encouraging his followers to give more to charity if he wants them to have less money.Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
Trade Unions, God Botherer in Chief, and economics!BruceV8 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Eric Mc said:
If the Church had their way, they'd be taxing us too (they used to, once upon a time).
we have 'church tax' hereluckily, it's 'opt out-able'
lots of brits get caught out with the innocent question when they first register here "what religion are you?" - thank you very much, we'll tax you now
then you have to go through a big rigmarole of officially renouncing the church for your 30 pieces of silver
if you don't pay it, you can't have a church wedding (which doesn't even count officially, you still have to do it at the town hall) or a christening etc
boo hoo
Without looking at the article, would I be correct in thinking this is the Archbishop that looks like a paedo who's got a scraggley beard?................. if so isnt this the same guy who's previously come out with such chestnuts as suggesting that islam had lots of good ideas etc etc
AndrewW-G said:
Without looking at the article, would I be correct in thinking this is the Archbishop that looks like a paedo who's got a scraggley beard?................. if so isnt this the same guy who's previously come out with such chestnuts as suggesting that islam had lots of good ideas etc etc
The very same, a "hairy lefty" as he puts it.otolith said:
AndrewW-G said:
Without looking at the article, would I be correct in thinking this is the Archbishop that looks like a paedo who's got a scraggley beard?................. if so isnt this the same guy who's previously come out with such chestnuts as suggesting that islam had lots of good ideas etc etc
The very same, a "hairy lefty" as he puts it.
otolith said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/art...
Did you miss the bit in bold?Times said:
The Archbishop of Canterbury has said that higher taxation could be used as a means of improving the human “habitat”.
Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
I know his book of mythology says that Jesus was nice to the tax collector and that it's blessed to be poor, but perhaps he should be encouraging his followers to give more to charity if he wants them to have less money.Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
otolith said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/art...
Yes and no.Times said:
The Archbishop of Canterbury has said that higher taxation could be used as a means of improving the human “habitat”.
Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
I know his book of mythology says that Jesus was nice to the tax collector and that it's blessed to be poor, but perhaps he should be encouraging his followers to give more to charity if he wants them to have less money.Addressing a TUC meeting on economics, Dr Rowan Williams also said that tax breaks could be used to promote environmentalist technology.
“We should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term economy — housekeeping. Taxation builds a habitat — already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways.”
Jesus did socialise with tax collectors, and recognised them, but he was also against extortioners.
I think the definition of modern tax collecting (eg its rates and methods) tends towards extortion personally.
For instance, a common church tithe requests 10% of your salary regardless of how much you earn. And I think that is in the Bible somewhere. Remember that it was the church 100 years ago that provided social and welfare support.
So far from Jesus being a supporter of high taxation, I think he would be a supporter of low taxation with a flat rate, thereby having more in common with the average PHer than the Archbishop of Canterbury frankly.
So, what are the politics of christianity? Pretty much communitarianism, just like Obama and the EU like so much.
Worst bits of the left and right wing, but popularly advertised as "radical centre".
I don't want to generalise, but most Christians have a hypocritical view of money/politics/morals.
s, all of them.
Worst bits of the left and right wing, but popularly advertised as "radical centre".
I don't want to generalise, but most Christians have a hypocritical view of money/politics/morals.
s, all of them.Tangent Police said:
ALL the christians I've met have had those attributes.
I would suggest you haven't met many Christians then.I'm not going to waste any more of my time defending Christianity on PH as its futile and pointless, but if you genuinely think that, then the only loser is you. (And not Loser with a capital L as an insult).
tinman0 said:
....So far from Jesus being a supporter of high taxation, I think he would be a supporter of low taxation with a flat rate, thereby having more in common with the average PHer....
Apparently he had a Honda, but kept quiet about it.John 12:49
"For I did not speak of my own accord."
HOGEPH said:
tinman0 said:
....So far from Jesus being a supporter of high taxation, I think he would be a supporter of low taxation with a flat rate, thereby having more in common with the average PHer....
Apparently he had a Honda, but kept quiet about it.John 12:49
"For I did not speak of my own accord."
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