Injured Soldiers Snub Brown
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Soovy

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35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...


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Well done lads.

Took a while for this to come out. Wonder why.


Edited by Soovy on Monday 7th December 13:49

snuffle

1,587 posts

212 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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+1

they deserve our respect for doing their job.

Project 644

37,069 posts

218 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Wot, no Daily Mail link Soov?

Ross1988

1,234 posts

213 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I'm embarassed to be British sometimes...

How can a government try to take soldiers to court to try and cut there compensation.


B Oeuf

39,731 posts

314 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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You won't see it on any BBC website or news channel, that's for sure

Cara van man

29,977 posts

281 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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The compo system is all fked up.

The guys who lose limbs or their sight seem to get peanuts.

However, during a football match last year I broke somebodies shoulder. To be honest he said it ached a bit but wasn't that bad. It did stop him ten pin bowling though, and he played this up.

He got about 7k. Unbeleivable.

When his cheque turned up i was disgusted.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

230 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Cara van man said:
The compo system is all fked up.

The guys who lose limbs or their sight seem to get peanuts.

However, during a football match last year I broke somebodies shoulder. To be honest he said it ached a bit but wasn't that bad. It did stop him ten pin bowling though, and he played this up.

He got about 7k. Unbeleivable.

When his cheque turned up i was disgusted.
how do you break somebodies shoulder playing football?

Cara van man

29,977 posts

281 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I dived at his feet (I'm a goalkeeper) and took his legs away, he fell awkwardly. Poof.

He kicked me in the face but I didn't claim. Maybe I should have, for 'ruined looks'. hehe


soad

34,663 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Well done all who carried out this "snub". Brown was only after his "Brownie Points" as usual.

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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NoNeed said:
Cara van man said:
The compo system is all fked up.

The guys who lose limbs or their sight seem to get peanuts.

However, during a football match last year I broke somebodies shoulder. To be honest he said it ached a bit but wasn't that bad. It did stop him ten pin bowling though, and he played this up.

He got about 7k. Unbeleivable.

When his cheque turned up i was disgusted.
how do you break somebodies shoulder playing football?
Similar happened to me, chasing down the ball (about 20 foot away) and some little scrote stuck his shoulder in my chest as he ran across me, tripped me over and I landed on my shoulder, snapped collar bone. Gave up football that season after suffering a broken foot after I got back (from kicking the goalkeeper in his studs). Season before I had my leg broke, being tackled by someone diving in two footed.

Think im just unlucky.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

272 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Cara van man said:
I dived at his feet (I'm a goalkeeper).
Always last to be picked.


Cara van man said:
He kicked me in the face but I didn't claim. Maybe I should have, for 'ruined looks'. hehe
You cannot sue Mother Nature, you fool.

southendpier

6,208 posts

259 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Well not yet you can't but give 'em time.

Cara van man

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281 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
Cara van man said:
I dived at his feet (I'm a goalkeeper).
Always last to be picked.


Cara van man said:
He kicked me in the face but I didn't claim. Maybe I should have, for 'ruined looks'. hehe
You cannot sue Mother Nature, you fool.
a) Au contraire, fkface. I'm usually first to be picked.

b) Fair call, Clooney.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Is the 20 yr old angry that Brown used the visit as a pic op or angry because of the policy that put him in harms way....because he was a little kid when the WTC came down so by the time he joined, danger in the far east was a very likely result of being a solider.

Whats happened to him/them is grim and they should get support but i do wonder if we need to do a better job of explaining to kids whats involved if they shun the government that was in force when they signed up. These are not people that joined under Thatcher and thought the IRA was their biggest issue.

Is compo even discussed with new recruits? Do they understand what they are getting into?

T350 Al

624 posts

221 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Tiggsy said:
Is the 20 yr old angry that Brown used the visit as a pic op or angry because of the policy that put him in harms way....because he was a little kid when the WTC came down so by the time he joined, danger in the far east was a very likely result of being a solider.

Whats happened to him/them is grim and they should get support but i do wonder if we need to do a better job of explaining to kids whats involved if they shun the government that was in force when they signed up. These are not people that joined under Thatcher and thought the IRA was their biggest issue.

Is compo even discussed with new recruits? Do they understand what they are getting into?
^This.

I've often wanted to ask the Army guys I work with just what goes through their head when they sign up. Are there lots of young guys signing up without a real grasp of the potential consequences?

I think some of it may be that any young lad with zero qualifications can join the Army and earn £16k+ with pension and medical. Where else can these young lads earn that sort of money?

As harsh as it may sound, there are plenty of cases out there where soldiers are coming back without limbs and finding that the compensation falls short of what they consider fair, yet there are still plenty of lads joining up, well aware of what may happen. If you join the army well aware of what might happen, and how much money you are entitled to should the worst happen, do these guys really have much of an argument (moral issue aside)? Just being Devil's Advocate!

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I think all it highlights is that we (civvies) rely on people in positions of low education/ambition/opportunity and high naivety, to get sucked into the forces so we can send them places to kill people for us.

Clearly, there are many who don't fit this bill (and plenty of Officers with a diferent motivation), but a hell of a lot that do and openly will admit to their option being poverty/crime/join up.

However, maybe this means we should be more supportive, given how we used them?

Bosshogg76

792 posts

213 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Cara van man said:
The compo system is all fked up.

The guys who lose limbs or their sight seem to get peanuts.

However, during a football match last year I broke somebodies shoulder. To be honest he said it ached a bit but wasn't that bad. It did stop him ten pin bowling though, and he played this up.

He got about 7k. Unbeleivable.

When his cheque turned up i was disgusted.
The system might not be fair in the weighting it gives to various injuries, however the system is there to be used. The payment scales should be readdressed, however if the activity was authorised then he is perfectly entitled to claim.

The claim process does allow comments on how the injury has impaired the individual, however if this isn't backed up by substantial medical evidence, and his line managers comments then the pay out wont be made. However you will know all this already.

theironduke

6,995 posts

218 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I've had a quick rummage but can't see this on the BBC site (as a previous poster alluded too) Has anybody alse seen it?

I avoid watching the BBC news now, it just makes me angry.


Jasandjules

72,602 posts

259 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Frankly, I am getting to the stage where I would support a military coup to remove the Traitors from Govt...............

theironduke

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218 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Frankly, I am getting to the stage where I would support a military coup to remove the Govt...............
EFA

i can't tell the difference.