Global Warming. Please Back Up Your PH Claims.
Discussion
Morning all.
I have been a lurker on the forum for a while now, reading it for a few months.
Yet I do not understand the PH attitude towards climate change and specifically global warming.
There is insurmountable evidence showing that there is a significant relastionship between the increase in CO2 emissions and an increase in the average world temperature in the last 200 years.
This increase in CO2 can be assumed to have come from increased industrialisation. In accordance with the accepted theory that, as greenhouse gas levels rise, so too does the tempereatire of our planet, evidence shows that over the past 200 years there has been a large rise in the average world temperature as CO2 levels rise.
Almost all climate scientists accept this. They have no vested interest: it is based on evidence.
I am not interested if you care about the consequences, or take the Jeremy Clarkson line that "I want more hot weather" etc. Whether you care about the effect of rising sea levels, etc, is irrelevant.
But why deny the scientific consensus that man made changes are causing a rise int he average world temperature? I don't understand...
(See the Stern report for a decent and unbiased report, or the ICCC study.)
I have been a lurker on the forum for a while now, reading it for a few months.
Yet I do not understand the PH attitude towards climate change and specifically global warming.
There is insurmountable evidence showing that there is a significant relastionship between the increase in CO2 emissions and an increase in the average world temperature in the last 200 years.
This increase in CO2 can be assumed to have come from increased industrialisation. In accordance with the accepted theory that, as greenhouse gas levels rise, so too does the tempereatire of our planet, evidence shows that over the past 200 years there has been a large rise in the average world temperature as CO2 levels rise.
Almost all climate scientists accept this. They have no vested interest: it is based on evidence.
I am not interested if you care about the consequences, or take the Jeremy Clarkson line that "I want more hot weather" etc. Whether you care about the effect of rising sea levels, etc, is irrelevant.
But why deny the scientific consensus that man made changes are causing a rise int he average world temperature? I don't understand...
(See the Stern report for a decent and unbiased report, or the ICCC study.)
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Typical lentilist abbreviation of the available data to suit your fantasist agenda.
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Controversial topic - check.
New member with low post count - check.
Troll - check.
"LOL" is not a response to my question. Provide some well backed up, peer assessed evidence which disproves the current theory accepted by most climate scientists. Ideally in a nicely summarised post with a few links.
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Controversial topic - check.
New member with low post count - check.
Troll - check.
"LOL" is not a response to my question. Provide some well backed up, peer assessed evidence which disproves the current theory accepted by most climate scientists. Ideally in a nicely summarised post with a few links.
eharding said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Typical lentilist abbreviation of the available data to suit your fantasist agenda.
Is it all a conspiracy?
i'm no superhero said:
eharding said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Typical lentilist abbreviation of the available data to suit your fantasist agenda.
Is it all a conspiracy?
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Controversial topic - check.
New member with low post count - check.
Troll - check.
"LOL" is not a response to my question. Provide some well backed up, peer assessed evidence which disproves the current theory accepted by most climate scientists. Ideally in a nicely summarised post with a few links.
"The planet has been heating up for tens of thousands of years since the last Ice age. "
I stopped reading.
There is so, so much wrong with his claim, and his following arguments it isn't worth debating.
Your Essenhigh post made me chuckle too.
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Controversial topic - check.
New member with low post count - check.
Troll - check.
"LOL" is not a response to my question. Provide some well backed up, peer assessed evidence which disproves the current theory accepted by most climate scientists. Ideally in a nicely summarised post with a few links.
"The planet has been heating up for tens of thousands of years since the last Ice age. "
I stopped reading.
There is so, so much wrong with his claim, and his following arguments it isn't worth debating.
Your Essenhigh post made me chuckle too.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
No conspiracy, just the rules of the game. Ironically the rules were originally made up by big oil, big carbon then tweeked it a bit. If this shocks you then you are very sweet, to coin a science teacher friend of mine's phrase on the subject.
362 pages should keep you occupied for a bit.
No conspiracy, just the rules of the game. Ironically the rules were originally made up by big oil, big carbon then tweeked it a bit. If this shocks you then you are very sweet, to coin a science teacher friend of mine's phrase on the subject.
362 pages should keep you occupied for a bit.
i'm no superhero said:
There is insurmountable evidence showing that there is a significant relastionship between the increase in CO2 emissions and an increase in the average world temperature in the last 200 years.
Really? Where is this insurmountable evidence?
Please.
Thanks in advance.
davidspooner said:
That is excellent."You're buying cars based on personal pleasure, without looking at the bigger picture"
Duh!
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
i'm no superhero said:
s2art said:
Troll alert! But just in case the OP is serious,
Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Armchair science at its very, very best. Start here;
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Controversial topic - check.
New member with low post count - check.
Troll - check.
"LOL" is not a response to my question. Provide some well backed up, peer assessed evidence which disproves the current theory accepted by most climate scientists. Ideally in a nicely summarised post with a few links.
"The planet has been heating up for tens of thousands of years since the last Ice age. "
I stopped reading.
There is so, so much wrong with his claim, and his following arguments it isn't worth debating.
Your Essenhigh post made me chuckle too.
What position are you in to comment on climate change (more specifically GW) out of interest? I am not in a solid position to comment (well, I hold a place to read Geography at UCL next year, so I hope to increase my knowledge further) however, as far as I am concerned, scientists are in a position to comment.
I feel like I have read a huge amount on the topic and the evidence does appear to be insurmountable. Scientists cannot be 100% correct, but most evidence does back up their original claims. I just don't see why people are denying it.
The IPCC website is all the evidence you need. People who are denying it make me draw parallels with creationists: it just angers me that people pounce on tiny bits of "science" and use it to their own benefit when what they claim is so trite.
i'm no superhero said:
I didn't read all of it. Mainly because I don't regard any of the "science" put forward by the posters in high regard as it hasn't been published or peer reviewed... unlike what most of the scientific community manages to do fairly well.
The pure essence of the lento-surrealist, captured doing what it does best - ignoring anything that doesn't agree with its warped world view.Wake up. You've been rumbled. You need an alternative career, because the funding is about to dry up.
Learn how to make coffee, or flip burgers.
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff



