Could the UK feed itself?
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Shaw Tarse

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31,890 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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A lot of natural disasters occur where there is not enough (natural) food to feed the population.
Ignoring "luxury items" Could Britain produce enough food to survive?

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
A lot of natural disasters occur where there is not enough (natural) food to feed the population.
Ignoring "luxury items" Could Britain produce enough food to survive?
Given long enough, perhaps. First thing to do would be to reclaim, and protect, our national waters and let the fish stocks recover.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
A lot of natural disasters occur where there is not enough (natural) food to feed the population.
Ignoring "luxury items" Could Britain produce enough food to survive?
Soylent green? Seriously, barring outside aid, possibly fishing and sustinence farming would hold to some degree?

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 19th January 18:47

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Are we allowed to eat the chavs?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Are we allowed to eat the chavs?
There again, Soylent Green.

singlecoil

35,832 posts

276 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Apparently we would need to cut down on meat consumption, but yes, we certainly could. We would need to get the diesel fuel from somewhere though. I don't know how much oil is left under the North Sea.

No diesel, no tractors, no food.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Theoretically yes. It would require quite a change in diet however.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Right now, no.

We would need to (probably quite aggressively) protect our waters, and seriously change our attitude to farming. I believe that either would require us to ditch the EU.

We're not energy secure either.

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.


Monki

1,233 posts

221 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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I'm going with Chav-Farms, feed them up on white lightning and then sell them on as kebab meat. Bet you won't tell the difference biggrin

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Don said:
Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.
Meat animals are fed on imported products such as Soya from Brazil after forest removal. If we fed the animals home produced products there'd be less space to grow our own food.
Another point to consider is that they say 50% of UK produced food is landfilled. Finding solutions for this would make a big difference.

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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herewego said:
Don said:
Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.
Meat animals are fed on imported products such as Soya from Brazil after forest removal. If we fed the animals home produced products there'd be less space to grow our own food.
Another point to consider is that they say 50% of UK produced food is landfilled. Finding solutions for this would make a big difference.
Those Sheep infesting the welsh hills dont eat much Soya.

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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s2art said:
herewego said:
Don said:
Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.
Meat animals are fed on imported products such as Soya from Brazil after forest removal. If we fed the animals home produced products there'd be less space to grow our own food.
Another point to consider is that they say 50% of UK produced food is landfilled. Finding solutions for this would make a big difference.
Those Sheep infesting the welsh hills dont eat much Soya.
No but they don't provide much of UK meat consumption either.

deeps

5,432 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
Could Britain produce enough food to survive?
Piece of cake.

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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herewego said:
s2art said:
herewego said:
Don said:
Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.
Meat animals are fed on imported products such as Soya from Brazil after forest removal. If we fed the animals home produced products there'd be less space to grow our own food.
Another point to consider is that they say 50% of UK produced food is landfilled. Finding solutions for this would make a big difference.
Those Sheep infesting the welsh hills dont eat much Soya.
No but they don't provide much of UK meat consumption either.
Not true, and, as has been pointed out, we could farm a stload more of them.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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deeps said:
Shaw Tarse said:
Could Britain produce enough food to survive?
Piece of cake.
Have to be a damn big cake

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
A lot of natural disasters occur where there is not enough (natural) food to feed the population.
Ignoring "luxury items" Could Britain produce enough food to survive?
Couldn't we go down Tescos?

zac510

5,546 posts

236 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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We could be more efficient too. I try not to waste but usually always waste a little bit, like the ends of bread loaves that I could eat instead of chucking out!

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Chuck the bread out for the birds. No waste then.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Don said:
Why the meat consumption problem? Most of Wales and Scotland is covered with hills you can't grow crops on. They're already partially covered in sheep. You could just extend that to sheep and goats for higher pastures. You could (and would) utilise moorland that currently only gets Grouse on it and so on.

I absolutely agree our diet would be very different...and might include meat that currently the population turn their noses up at like rabbit and so on - but hey, I'm game for it.
plus cat and dog