Iraqi Immigrant who killed can stay in the UK

[anonymous-user]

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[Westy Pre-Lit]

anonymous said:

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I can.

[Turbo5]

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

[Eric Mc]

What expense?

[Parrot of Doom]

Turbo5 said:

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

The death penalty for mentally-ill patients?

SIEG HEIL!

[Pesty]

said:

Could pose a danger to people in his homeland

said:

All foreign national prisoners were now considered for deportation before release

I take it from that last quote this man is about to become a possible danger on our streets(wouldnt be the first time somebody didn't take their medication). Fantastic, if this man kills again the immigration judge should face charges as well.

[Rusty Arches]

Parrot of Doom said:

Turbo5 said:

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

The death penalty for mentally-ill patients?

SIEG HEIL!

The death penalty for murderers.

[singlecoil]

How else is a judge going to get his name in the papers?

[10 Pence Short]

Rusty Arches said:

Parrot of Doom said:

Turbo5 said:

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

The death penalty for mentally-ill patients?

SIEG HEIL!

The death penalty for murderers.

And murderers who are acquitted many years after conviction? It's a bit late to say sorry when the state has them buried 6 feet under.

[chr15b]

bbc said:

could pose a danger to people in his homeland

so leave him to be a danger in our homeland....

[Jasandjules]

chr15b said:

bbc said:

could pose a danger to people in his homeland

so leave him to be a danger in our homeland....

THis was my first thought.

WTF? At least lock him up indefinately then IF he has mental problems that lead him to kill two doctors...

[Rusty Arches]

10 Pence Short said:

Rusty Arches said:

Parrot of Doom said:

Turbo5 said:

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

The death penalty for mentally-ill patients?

SIEG HEIL!

The death penalty for murderers.

And murderers who are acquitted many years after conviction? It's a bit late to say sorry when the state has them buried 6 feet under.

Turbo5 said:

Rather than have this expense in clear cut cases like this where there is no doubt he committed murder I say that the death penalty should be imposed.

[Mr_B]

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

[Eric Mc]

Mr_B said:

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

What will you be paying for?

[Mr_B]

Eric Mc said:

Mr_B said:

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

What will you be paying for?

The 19 years he's alreay spent in a secure hospital.
The cost of his 2 murders.
The drugs that are seemingly so expensive that he could not get them in his home country.
His likely future life in a secure hospital here.
If freed, a life of supervision ,drugs and the 99.99% that he'll never work again so will get everything paid for on the outside.

Edited by Mr_B on Sunday 24th January 12:32

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Eric Mc said:

Mr_B said:

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

What will you be paying for?

His benefits I bet

[Mojocvh]

Mr_B said:

Eric Mc said:

Mr_B said:

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

What will you be paying for?

The 19 years he's alreay spent in a secure hospital.
The drugs that are seemingly so expensive that he could not get them in his home country.
His likely future life in a secure hospital here.
If freed, a life of supervision ,drugs and the 99.99% that he'll never work again so will get everything paid for on the outside.

Piss boiler for sure, but the precedent was set many years ago.

[Eric Mc]

If we did have the death sentence, he would probably be still alive (under the undoubted appeals procedures that MUST be followed when death is the punishment) and his costs to the UK taxpayer would undoubtedly be much higher than they have been.

Or do you believe we should sumarilly execute those who are found guilty, with limited or no appeal - like China.

I would prefer to live in an insecure democaracy rather than a secure totalitariamn state.

[Westy Pre-Lit]

Mr_B said:

Eric Mc said:

Mr_B said:

Cool, he gets to stay and I get to pay for it.

What will you be paying for?

The 19 years he's alreay spent in a secure hospital.
The cost of his 2 murders.
The drugs that are seemingly so expensive that he could not get them in his home country.
His likely future life in a secure hospital here.
If freed, a life of supervision ,drugs and the 99.99% that he'll never work again so will get everything paid for on the outside.

Edited by Mr_B on Sunday 24th January 12:32

Bargain!

[Mr_B]

Eric Mc said:

If we did have the death sentence, he would probably be still alive (under the undoubted appeals procedures that MUST be followed when death is the punishment) and his costs to the UK taxpayer would undoubtedly be much higher than they have been.

Or do you believe we should sumarilly execute those who are found guilty, with limited or no appeal - like China.

I would prefer to live in an insecure democaracy rather than a secure totalitariamn state.

I never called for a death sentence, I objected to the fact that the main reason given for his stay he is the possible lack of drugs to treat him in his home country, and that can only be money related.
I would rather the the NHS sent a parcel full of drugs once a month, than the continue covering the cost of him living here in total care.