Next Chancellor - is it inevitable ?
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If we get a hung parliament it won't matter how is Chancellor he won't be able to do anything anyway. The country will be ungovernable - with everyone predicting another election in under a year.
Mind you - if Winky is able to form a coalition government we'll see a full five years of the total chaos. We've never had the politics of concensus here in Britain - don't see it starting now...
Mind you - if Winky is able to form a coalition government we'll see a full five years of the total chaos. We've never had the politics of concensus here in Britain - don't see it starting now...
Don said:
If we get a hung parliament it won't matter how is Chancellor he won't be able to do anything anyway. The country will be ungovernable - with everyone predicting another election in under a year.
Mind you - if Winky is able to form a coalition government we'll see a full five years of the total chaos. We've never had the politics of concensus here in Britain - don't see it starting now...
It's the last thing a country needs, it needs to be led by a leader not giverned by committee. Hence why First Past the Post, may not be fair in teh true sense, but it is best for allMind you - if Winky is able to form a coalition government we'll see a full five years of the total chaos. We've never had the politics of concensus here in Britain - don't see it starting now...
s2art said:
Darling, who I used to think of as particularly useless within a party which characterises uselessness, is actually in a strong position now. Dont write him off so easily.
Indeed. And I have to say (grudgingly; I used to think he was a total and utter waste of skin) that he has risen enormously in my estimation over the past six months. Now, he was starting from a low baseline, but sticking to his guns and honestly reporting the reality of the state of the economy took some doing in the face of hostile briefing from No. 10, and party-political matters aside I think he's genuinely been doing the best he can with the crappy materials he has been given.I find myself in the bizarre situation of desperately wanting Labour out of power, but being completely unconvinced by any potential chancellor except the one we've got. If I think about this too long, my head will explode.
bluetone said:
s2art said:
Darling, who I used to think of as particularly useless within a party which characterises uselessness, is actually in a strong position now. Dont write him off so easily.
I take it you use the term strong as a relative term rather than an absolute one 
Quaint said:
s2art said:
Darling, who I used to think of as particularly useless within a party which characterises uselessness, is actually in a strong position now. Dont write him off so easily.
Indeed. And I have to say (grudgingly; I used to think he was a total and utter waste of skin) that he has risen enormously in my estimation over the past six months. Now, he was starting from a low baseline, but sticking to his guns and honestly reporting the reality of the state of the economy took some doing in the face of hostile briefing from No. 10, and party-political matters aside I think he's genuinely been doing the best he can with the crappy materials he has been given.I find myself in the bizarre situation of desperately wanting Labour out of power, but being completely unconvinced by any potential chancellor except the one we've got. If I think about this too long, my head will explode.
anonymous said:
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I doubt Darling has told us the whole truth, but he has told us more than any other Labour knobber would have, despite having spiteful Gordon next door whispering in the Press' ear.
I have to respect him for that.
ETA Be thankful we didn't get Balls
Edited by Mr. Potato Head on Friday 26th February 15:07
Rather than a "hung parliment" can we rebrand it a "social democratic community"? It's far less perjorative.
You'll merely have another load of socialist-collective-liberals discussing more jibber jabber.
The Tories are not a libertarian party and I can't see, apart from a load of odious Scots, what the difference would be?
Maybe there will be less arguing.
I wonder what will happen to the exchange rates
You'll merely have another load of socialist-collective-liberals discussing more jibber jabber.
The Tories are not a libertarian party and I can't see, apart from a load of odious Scots, what the difference would be?
Maybe there will be less arguing.
I wonder what will happen to the exchange rates
anonymous said:
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I'm sorry, but the markets disagree significantly. Though the probability of a hung parliament has increased recently to about 33%, an outright Tory majority is still the favoured outcome at 62%. If you disagree, you can make some dough if you're right!Chart of general election outcomes
catso said:
I think if Winky gets his way he'll have Balls...
BALLSnot sure who he'd choose for Chancellor though.
No I'm not disagreeing. For Balls is Winky's chosen one. The economic genius who was pulling Winky's strings in the background for the last thirteen years. If anyone ever had an apt name then it is he. He makes me feel physically ill when he comes on TV to spout his rubbish, I think he's Secretary of State for Children and Climate Change or something. His has horrid little piggy eyes and greasy skin. He will be the next incumbent of No11 following the Lib/Lab pact in May. Vince Cable won't get a look in at that job. You read it here first.
On the subject of the polls, I thought this was interesting http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
ok so hes a tory, so he would say they can win, but I have read that when the poll figures showed "only" a 7% lead for the tories the raw data showed something like a 12% lead but this was reduced after "corrections" were applied, presumably by the complex models that are mentioned in the article.
I reckon that if there is no overall majority it wont because labour won back voters but because voters abandon both labour and the tories, the minority parties will end up splitting the vote.
ok so hes a tory, so he would say they can win, but I have read that when the poll figures showed "only" a 7% lead for the tories the raw data showed something like a 12% lead but this was reduced after "corrections" were applied, presumably by the complex models that are mentioned in the article.
I reckon that if there is no overall majority it wont because labour won back voters but because voters abandon both labour and the tories, the minority parties will end up splitting the vote.
Edited by Crafty_ on Friday 26th February 19:53
Is there no chance we can just dispense parliment altogether and have a text voting system like X Factor and other s
te. At least that way people might actually take notice instead of just voting for the person who asks last or looks the least likely to steal from them. I really struggle to see any link between the person I will vote for in my constituency and the party that will run the country, our Labour MP is a light-weight new Labour yes man who simply has no backbone and is a career politician, at least with Mandy we had someone with a bit of influence representing his own interests. The Lib Dem candidate will be a complete nobody, the Tories have put up a local broadcast journalist who is a great public speaker but would be a waste of space as a politician and then there will be usual band of local businessmen trying to fund early retirement.
The big trouble being that who I vote for will not be close to the next PM and I am not certain that a vote against the incompetent fkwit in charge at the moment will yield any positive results. Lots of people will vote in protest and it is feasible there could be a lot more complete nuggets in the House of Commons come next term. Protest votes simply don't work out well for anyone so unless one of the parties pulls its arse into gear says some very sensible but honest stuff and really is convincing the whole thing could be a shambles, will a <20% turnout of the electorate really be representative?
te. At least that way people might actually take notice instead of just voting for the person who asks last or looks the least likely to steal from them. I really struggle to see any link between the person I will vote for in my constituency and the party that will run the country, our Labour MP is a light-weight new Labour yes man who simply has no backbone and is a career politician, at least with Mandy we had someone with a bit of influence representing his own interests. The Lib Dem candidate will be a complete nobody, the Tories have put up a local broadcast journalist who is a great public speaker but would be a waste of space as a politician and then there will be usual band of local businessmen trying to fund early retirement. The big trouble being that who I vote for will not be close to the next PM and I am not certain that a vote against the incompetent f
kwit in charge at the moment will yield any positive results. Lots of people will vote in protest and it is feasible there could be a lot more complete nuggets in the House of Commons come next term. Protest votes simply don't work out well for anyone so unless one of the parties pulls its arse into gear says some very sensible but honest stuff and really is convincing the whole thing could be a shambles, will a <20% turnout of the electorate really be representative?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff