Jeremy Clarkson meets Nelson Mandela....oh dear.
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It gets worse:
"It was like queuing for a wedding line-up. You want to say something to the bride’s father that all the other guests haven’t said before, but what hasn’t already been said to Nelson Mandela? My head was in a spin. I was shaking with nerves. And perhaps that’s why my first question was — and I’m not making this up — “So, Mr Mandela, have you ever been to a lap-dancing club?”"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
"It was like queuing for a wedding line-up. You want to say something to the bride’s father that all the other guests haven’t said before, but what hasn’t already been said to Nelson Mandela? My head was in a spin. I was shaking with nerves. And perhaps that’s why my first question was — and I’m not making this up — “So, Mr Mandela, have you ever been to a lap-dancing club?”"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
Escort2dr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Escort2dr said:
10 Pence Short said:
The only question is- why did the entire world mis the opportunity to kill two c*nts at once?
?Were you there too
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then ?s.10 Pence Short said:
Escort2dr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Escort2dr said:
10 Pence Short said:
The only question is- why did the entire world mis the opportunity to kill two c*nts at once?
?Were you there too
? then ?s.Wasn't Clarkson calling Mandella a terrorist in his Sunday Times column a year or so ago? I'm not particularly bothered whether he likes the bloke or not - and his article in this morning's paper just seemed childish - but his fawning over the bloke once he got a chance to meet him seems very hypocritical to me.
lonny said:
Wasn't Clarkson calling Mandela a terrorist in his Sunday Times column a year or so ago? I'm not particularly bothered whether he likes the bloke or not - and his article in this morning's paper just seemed childish - but his fawning over the bloke once he got a chance to meet him seems very hypocritical to me.
As usual a terrorist is only a terrorist if:
a: his or her side doesn’t win
b: you don’t agree with his or her viewpoint
As soon as a terrorists side in any conflict does win & / or their viewpoint is perceived by others as being justified, then they become "freedom fighters" to be courted by terrible 70’s/80’s singers
Edited by AndrewW-G on Sunday 28th February 12:29
JC in the Times in 2003 said:
I have to be honest. I have a problem with Mandela. I know that he has become a symbol of democracy’s triumph over evil and a hero to oppressed people everywhere, and I’m sure that Livingstone and Co are right to say that millions of people would like to see this “great statesman” immortalised for all time in the middle of London.
But he’s not Gandhi, you know. You may like what he represents — I do — but if you peer under the halo of political correctness that bathes him in a golden glow of goodness you’ll find that the man himself is a bit dodgy.
Back in the early 1960s he was the one who pushed the ANC into armed conflict. He was known back then as the Black Pimpernel. And his second marriage was to Winnie, who’s now a convicted fraudster and thief with, we’re told, a penchant for Pirelli necklaces.
Furthermore, since his release from prison and his eventual rise to the presidency, Mandela has had some extraordinary things to say about world affairs. He’s deeply concerned, for instance, about the plight of one of the Lockerbie bombers and has expressed support for both Gadaffi and Castro.
Indeed, he has singled out Cuba, praising it for its human rights and liberty. I’m sorry — what human rights, what liberty? Perhaps he should go to the Cohiba nightclub and ask one of the 12-year-old prostitutes which way her parents voted.
Once, while defending his decision to share a stage with three Puerto Rican terrorists who shot and wounded five US congressmen in 1954, Mandela said he supported anyone who was fighting for self- determination. The IRA, the Chechens, Shining Path? What if I started a movement to bring about independence for Chipping Norton; what if I blew up council offices in Oxford and shot a few policemen — could I count on Mandela’s support?
What of the people who hijacked those airliners on September 11? They would almost certainly have argued that one of their goals was self-rule for Palestine. So does he think their actions were justified? Confusingly, he doesn’t.
I simply don’t understand why the Nobel academy gave him a peace prize or why Charlie Dimmock and Alan Titchmarsh gave him a new garden. And I don’t see why he should be given a statue in Trafalgar Square, either. If we’re after someone who stands up for the oppressed, what about Jesus? I feel fairly sure that he never blew up a train.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/article885289.eceBut he’s not Gandhi, you know. You may like what he represents — I do — but if you peer under the halo of political correctness that bathes him in a golden glow of goodness you’ll find that the man himself is a bit dodgy.
Back in the early 1960s he was the one who pushed the ANC into armed conflict. He was known back then as the Black Pimpernel. And his second marriage was to Winnie, who’s now a convicted fraudster and thief with, we’re told, a penchant for Pirelli necklaces.
Furthermore, since his release from prison and his eventual rise to the presidency, Mandela has had some extraordinary things to say about world affairs. He’s deeply concerned, for instance, about the plight of one of the Lockerbie bombers and has expressed support for both Gadaffi and Castro.
Indeed, he has singled out Cuba, praising it for its human rights and liberty. I’m sorry — what human rights, what liberty? Perhaps he should go to the Cohiba nightclub and ask one of the 12-year-old prostitutes which way her parents voted.
Once, while defending his decision to share a stage with three Puerto Rican terrorists who shot and wounded five US congressmen in 1954, Mandela said he supported anyone who was fighting for self- determination. The IRA, the Chechens, Shining Path? What if I started a movement to bring about independence for Chipping Norton; what if I blew up council offices in Oxford and shot a few policemen — could I count on Mandela’s support?
What of the people who hijacked those airliners on September 11? They would almost certainly have argued that one of their goals was self-rule for Palestine. So does he think their actions were justified? Confusingly, he doesn’t.
I simply don’t understand why the Nobel academy gave him a peace prize or why Charlie Dimmock and Alan Titchmarsh gave him a new garden. And I don’t see why he should be given a statue in Trafalgar Square, either. If we’re after someone who stands up for the oppressed, what about Jesus? I feel fairly sure that he never blew up a train.
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