It's All Thatcher's Fault...
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the_smalls

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1,003 posts

226 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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For a giggle, I had a quick gander at The Guardian's website this morning. I honestly cannot believe that people can write this st and that a good proportion of people actually swallow it...

Guardian: Margaret Thatcher's toxic legacy

I particularly like some of the comments, e.g. "Extraordinary. The last 13 years have apparently been wiped from the record."

Mclovin

1,679 posts

221 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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i feel sick...

Jasandjules

71,905 posts

252 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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And if CMD gets in at the next election, each time he is forced to raise taxes to pay for the off balance sheet borrowing of our feckless Govt, he can honestly state it's All Gordon's fault.

bga

8,134 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Like most of politics it is opinion and the reality is often a grey area. Opponents like to shoot off counter arguments and facts that are again, opinion.

No doubt when we get the Conservative into power again, they will also blame things on the current bunch of muppets. Some of which will be true, some of which will be covering their poor decisions.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

240 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Exactly the sort of nonsense you'd expect from a labour mp and his "special friend" who teaches cultural studies (no doubt a very useful and valid course hehe)

Conian

8,030 posts

224 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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I'm sick of 'news'
News papers should report what's happened in the world, facts of real events.

No opinions
No 'celebs'
More breasts, obviously.

bga

8,134 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Conian said:
facts of real events.
Conian said:
More breasts, obviously.
I take it they will be silicon free boobs then hehe

MX7

7,902 posts

197 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Cruddas showed his true colours when he supported Chavez over the closure of RCTV. He would have excelled under Brezhnev.

I wonder if Cruddas is getting a bit edgy about losing his seat in Dagenham? Resorting to "It's Thatcher's fault" is sheer desperation.


F i F

47,843 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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The article is written by a moron with an agenda, and his lack of functioning brain cells even induced a It's all Thatcher's fault" coma which allows the plank to ignore certain issues in his own argument.

For example he presents "In 1978 there were 7.1 million employed in manufacturing, by 2008 that had fallen to 3 million." as if that entire fall were at the hands of the Tories.

Look at the stats here and then put which party was in power when..

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/tsdataset.as...

All as bad as each other, we want a complete change, and though Call Me Dave made a good speech he's just more of the same.

M3333

2,330 posts

237 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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One of my Dad's main clients until last week was Corus.

On attending the site after the closure, all he could hear was rants about Thatcher, unreal! They utterly believe she is 100% to blame for the closure of that site.

Maybe if they could think out of the box for a moment it would be realised that Labour use their stupidity for a nice easy seat, where was Peter Mandleson? He used to be the MP for Hartlepool FFS, but no it was Thatcher!!!!!. You try reasoning with them too, a bunch of bloody stubborn bigots.

wkers!



Edited by M3333 on Monday 1st March 21:19

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Feck me it's been 20 years!!! Was John Major never PM or has that been conveniently forgotten?

I am so unbelievably pi$$ed off! It would appear that a good portion of this Country actually still thinks that this hopeles bunch of thieving, scheming, blundering half wits should get re-relected. It truly beggars belief!

Right that's it i'm off down the Estate to breed with some pikeys, it seems the only way to get ahead these days furious

Dupont666

22,500 posts

215 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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I like this quote:

Maggie was elected 31 years ago. Cameron was then 12 years old. There's a point at which you have to stop saying Cameron is her baby and not his own man.

Even I voted for Thatcher in May 1979 (I never voted Tory again). I did so because Labour under Callaghan had fked up in spades. The economy was down the toilet, we were in hock to the IMF, top rate tax was 98% much to Denis Healey's delight, the unions were de facto running the country, and bodies were going unburied under mountains of uncollected rubbish in the Winter of Discontent.

Thatcher did what needed to be done to stop the rot. And she was absolutely right to get rid of the dribbling, raving loony smokestack industries that were doing sod all for the economy other than costing it a fortune in subsidies because they were uncompetitive.

No industry has some god given right to protection at all costs, even against the predations of its barmiest, most militant staff (British Airways anyone?) and Thatcher was right to explode that myth.




Pretty accurate if you ask me...

Pupp

12,855 posts

295 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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No real value to add to the thread except to ask whether anyone else saw the clip tonight of Thatch resigning in the aftermath of the poll tax protests? Vintage TV smile

See, all this moaning about Broon but, with her, people actually did something to get rid wink

Morningside

24,146 posts

252 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Dupont666 said:
I like this quote:

Maggie was elected 31 years ago.
Jesus yikes That makes me old frown

Dupont666

22,500 posts

215 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Morningside said:
Dupont666 said:
I like this quote:

Maggie was elected 31 years ago.
Jesus yikes That makes me old frown
hi grandad, want a cup of char with you pipe and slippers??

catso

15,825 posts

290 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Watching the news at lunchtime, a piece about school places and how some parents are going to be disappointed that they can't get their kids in at their preferred school, there was an interview with Ed ballox Balls, the very first thing he said was 'Back in 1997....'

what an utterly useless ....

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Dupont666 said:
Morningside said:
Dupont666 said:
I like this quote:

Maggie was elected 31 years ago.
Jesus yikes That makes me old frown
hi grandad, want a cup of char with you pipe and slippers??
Yeah....

Dupont666

22,500 posts

215 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
Dupont666 said:
Morningside said:
Dupont666 said:
I like this quote:

Maggie was elected 31 years ago.
Jesus yikes That makes me old frown
hi grandad, want a cup of char with you pipe and slippers??
Yeah....
Jesus I didnt realise Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great grandad was alive... how was old viccy?

cazzer

8,883 posts

271 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Pupp said:
No real value to add to the thread except to ask whether anyone else saw the clip tonight of Thatch resigning in the aftermath of the poll tax protests? Vintage TV smile

See, all this moaning about Broon but, with her, people actually did something to get rid wink
Shame it was actually a fairer tax that the one it got replaced with.

Wilseus

64 posts

194 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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cazzer said:
Shame it was actually a fairer tax that the one it got replaced with.
Not to mention the one it replaced.