Should the Japanese knotweed predator be released?
Should the Japanese knotweed predator be released?

Poll: Should the Japanese knotweed predator be released?

Total Members Polled: 100

Yes: 35%
No: 34%
Not sure: 31%
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Discussion

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,465 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8555378.stm

Japanese knotweed is out of control, and a natural insect predator is due to be released.

Will it have other consequences...?

grumbledoak

32,405 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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So, Cane Toad all over again? Superb.

Smart roadster

769 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I wondered about this as well. What will the killer insect eat once it has finished all the knotweed? It was claimed that it had been tested and was not a threat to local flora and fauna. What if it evolves to become a threat to the local flora and fauna?
I understand the need to kill the knotweed but will the cure be worse than the disease?
I voted not sure.

Fittster

20,120 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Are there any cases where introducing a predator has been a success?

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,465 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Fittster said:
Are there any cases where introducing a predator has been a success?
Not a prolific predator (more a scavenger), but the Red Kite re-introduction doesn't seem to be having obvious bad consequences?

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Fittster said:
Are there any cases where introducing a predator has been a success?
Myxamatosis (sp) although some rabbits are immune to it. No other species are affected iirc.

ShadownINja

79,507 posts

306 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Could we not make the insect be unable to breed and have a shorter than normal lifespan. We can nickname them Roy.

tangent police

3,097 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Biodiversity is important maaaaaaan.

Yes, assuming the predator doesn't snack on anything else... like beech trees, etc. They will have trialled this.

OllieC

3,816 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Could we not make the insect be unable to breed and have a shorter than normal lifespan. We can nickname them Roy.
NOt very sporting of you Deckarddddddd

Amateurish

8,260 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Like rabbits in Australia, introducing new species to combat problems is always a bad idea.

grumbledoak

32,405 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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And we're introducing this to counter something the Victorians introduced.

I know an old lady who swallowed a spider...

Ganglandboss

8,502 posts

227 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Fittster said:
Are there any cases where introducing a predator has been a success?
Yes. The Bolivian Tree Lizard kills feral pigeons. When they are overrun with lizards, they release Chinese Needle Snakes, then snake-eating gorillas, and then when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death. I saw a programme about it on Channel 4.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

222 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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grumbledoak said:
And we're introducing this to counter something the Victorians introduced.

I know an old lady who swallowed a spider...
I know a younger lady who'll swallow a lot more for fifty notes.

Thudd

3,100 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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grumbledoak said:
So, Cane Toad all over again? Superb.
+1

roboxm3

2,477 posts

219 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Ganglandboss said:
Fittster said:
Are there any cases where introducing a predator has been a success?
Yes. The Bolivian Tree Lizard kills feral pigeons. When they are overrun with lizards, they release Chinese Needle Snakes, then snake-eating gorillas, and then when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death. I saw a programme about it on Channel 4.
The Simpsons??

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

222 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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tangent police said:
Biodiversity is important maaaaaaan.

Yes, assuming the predator doesn't snack on anything else... like beech trees, etc. They will have trialled this.
Assumptions, however, are the mother of all fk-ups.
This kind of thing is always a dangerous gamble.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

249 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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grumbledoak said:
So, Cane Toad all over again? Superb.
But you can lick Cane Toads whereas aphids have no useful entertainment value.

Hugo a Gogo

23,428 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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'Predator' in the sense that cows are grass predators?

I don't think these creatures destroy the plant, the simply feed off it, preventing it from growing as much

so not predators then

miniman

29,458 posts

286 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Could we not make the insect be unable to breed and have a shorter than normal lifespan. We can nickname them Roy.
It's not the insect itself that deals with the knotweed, it's the larvae.

ShadownINja

79,507 posts

306 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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OllieC said:
ShadownINja said:
Could we not make the insect be unable to breed and have a shorter than normal lifespan. We can nickname them Roy.
NOt very sporting of you Deckarddddddd
I was unable to incorporate the attack ships quote into my reply, sadly.