New Political Party needed.
Discussion
After following the discussion here http://mobile.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
In the "Do the Tories have to do it all again?" thread, I have come to the conclusion that there is no best fit political party for most peoples views. There seems to be too much talk/image to protect of left/right rather than a party actually fighting for the issues which are right for society.
So, hypothetically a new party is being set up, it is your choice to decide the political direction that the party takes this is from the party name, through the aims of the party to the way it would be run. Go into as much detail as you wish, laws to try and pass/change etc.
In the "Do the Tories have to do it all again?" thread, I have come to the conclusion that there is no best fit political party for most peoples views. There seems to be too much talk/image to protect of left/right rather than a party actually fighting for the issues which are right for society.
So, hypothetically a new party is being set up, it is your choice to decide the political direction that the party takes this is from the party name, through the aims of the party to the way it would be run. Go into as much detail as you wish, laws to try and pass/change etc.
If we must have representative democracy at least have a look at:
The Libertarian Party of the United Kingdom
The Libertarian Party of the United Kingdom
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
This party should be called the "Reason that referendums don't work" party..1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Soovy for PM.1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Unfortunately, even though we here at PH know best 
, we are not a representative sample of the UK and likely neither are our friends, as we tend to stick to people with broadly similar outlooks on life. So whilst the Soovy party could count on the vote of most PH members, I feel that his popularity outwith may be rather less.
, we are not a representative sample of the UK and likely neither are our friends, as we tend to stick to people with broadly similar outlooks on life. So whilst the Soovy party could count on the vote of most PH members, I feel that his popularity outwith may be rather less. You need the vote of those that you don't like to win elections.
So tell me, all of you. What do you propose to do to win the votes of the non right wing classes? How will you win the vote of the 6m on benefits?
Soovy's list is pointless, it won't win any votes (preaching to the converted etc.) and most of those will not vote for the incumbents anyway.
As I say, how will you win the votes and minds of the left wingers, the underclass, the poor, those employed by the govt. etc. This is where the votes are..... The "right" wingers will vote for you anyway but there aren't enough of them to get anywhere near winning....
So tell me, all of you. What do you propose to do to win the votes of the non right wing classes? How will you win the vote of the 6m on benefits?
Soovy's list is pointless, it won't win any votes (preaching to the converted etc.) and most of those will not vote for the incumbents anyway.
As I say, how will you win the votes and minds of the left wingers, the underclass, the poor, those employed by the govt. etc. This is where the votes are..... The "right" wingers will vote for you anyway but there aren't enough of them to get anywhere near winning....
Edited by Dracoro on Tuesday 9th March 11:24
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
You've got my vote straight out.1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
SWMBO went through hell after rape years back. Grandmother got ridiculously bad care in the home she was in for a while prior to her death. Green taxes are just a scam for a chronically inefficient government.
clonmult said:
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
You've got my vote straight out.1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
Paedophiles can be people that have never even touched a child.
A paedophile becomes a rapist when they act out.
You can't even get everyone to agree what constitutes fairness in matters of personal wealth and taxation - the idea of uniting the whole country on one manifesto is hopeless. Even if you can win votes from across the socio-economic spectrum with something like an anti-immigration policy or a hang 'em and flog 'em policy, you lose some of them when you pin your fiscal colours to the mast. The BNP may be seen as right wing on immigration, for instance, but it has far left economic policies.
The best you can hope for is to win the largest minority. You can't be all things to all men.
The best you can hope for is to win the largest minority. You can't be all things to all men.
Frankeh said:
clonmult said:
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
You've got my vote straight out.1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
Paedophiles can be people that have never even touched a child.
A paedophile becomes a rapist when they act out.
t if he had indecent images of my child on his pc?hell yes.
soovy's ideas get my vote, plain and simple.
If the UK continues its economic stslide, the polical future may well be very different from recent past.
With no funds to piss up the wall, what does Labour offer its 'core' voters? With the sugar-coated benefits existence removed, real poverty - the like of which is not known in the UK or Western Europe, but is a daily fact of live elsewhere in the same planet - will shift the goalposts.
Furthermore, with the driving force for employment legislation being devolved further from the UK government, of what use are unions? At some time even the most leftist observer will be forced to agree that, with the EU and the HSE looking after employees interests, unoins are an expensive anachronism.
tslide, the polical future may well be very different from recent past.With no funds to piss up the wall, what does Labour offer its 'core' voters? With the sugar-coated benefits existence removed, real poverty - the like of which is not known in the UK or Western Europe, but is a daily fact of live elsewhere in the same planet - will shift the goalposts.
Furthermore, with the driving force for employment legislation being devolved further from the UK government, of what use are unions? At some time even the most leftist observer will be forced to agree that, with the EU and the HSE looking after employees interests, unoins are an expensive anachronism.
Soovy said:
The Britain Party.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
1. Immigrant policy is FIFO. "Fit in or F ck Off"
2. No benefits without working for them
3. Prison ships
4. Death for rapists, paedos and murderers
5. The right to bear arms to protect yourself and your property
6. And end to green taxes and dogma
7. The right to dignity and care in old age
8. No NHS tourism
For a start.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 10:22
Where do I sign up?
Frankeh said:
CastrolCraig. said:
would i want to string up a tt if he had indecent images of my child on his pc?
hell yes.
Ok. That doesn't make it any more right than the pedo wanting indecent images of your children on his PC though, does it? t if he had indecent images of my child on his pc?hell yes.
I've seen what they do to people. You can't even begin to imagine how twisted they are. You just can't. Ever had to sit through a film of a child being abused? I have - and trust me, what is seen cannot be unseen.
Rapists and offenders who attack children should be strung up.
Edited by Soovy on Tuesday 9th March 12:06
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