Tories shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted?
Discussion
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand...
Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
They will all do nothing about anything to do with the EU. Absolutley zero. CMD can announce all he wants to pander to the UKIPPERS, but the bottom line is they can't do anything which is irrelevant because they won't do anything.
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
Edited by tangent police on Friday 12th March 11:08
tangent police said:
They will all do nothing about anything to do with the EU. Absolutley zero. CMD can announce all he wants to pander to the UKIPPERS, but the bottom line is they can't do anything which is irrelevant because they won't do anything.
UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
So you are saying that policy document is in fact a pack of lies??UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
Mojocvh said:
tangent police said:
They will all do nothing about anything to do with the EU. Absolutley zero. CMD can announce all he wants to pander to the UKIPPERS, but the bottom line is they can't do anything which is irrelevant because they won't do anything.
UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
So you are saying that policy document is in fact a pack of lies??UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
Mojocvh said:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand...
Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
For God's sake, will you Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
s stop going on about a non-problem? 
Mod note: The swear filter's there for a reason
Edited by Bill on Friday 12th March 12:57
V88Dicky said:
Mojocvh said:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand...
Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
For God's sake, will you Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
s stop going on about a non-problem? (quoted for posterity)
So you have no RATIONAL argument then??
Edited by Bill on Friday 12th March 12:59
10 Pence Short said:
tangent police said:
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
UKIP are the gravy trainers. tangent police said:
Mojocvh said:
tangent police said:
They will all do nothing about anything to do with the EU. Absolutley zero. CMD can announce all he wants to pander to the UKIPPERS, but the bottom line is they can't do anything which is irrelevant because they won't do anything.
UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
So you are saying that policy document is in fact a pack of lies??UKIP would be the only people who actually did anything and then President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
It's inevitable.
Discussing it is futile.
Whoever you vote for, the EU'ers get in.
And where have we seen this before 
Mojocvh said:
10 Pence Short said:
tangent police said:
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
UKIP are the gravy trainers. ctrl + alt + 4
sonic_2k_uk said:
Mojocvh said:
10 Pence Short said:
tangent police said:
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
UKIP are the gravy trainers. ctrl + alt + 4
10 Pence Short said:
tangent police said:
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
UKIP are the gravy trainers. What we need to have is a national Shoot-a-Politician week.
I think this would be a bloody good policy.
Apart from they took our guns
Mojocvh said:
So you are saying that policy document is in fact a pack of lies??
Can you show me a policy document that isn't infact complete BS?The problem with politics is that they get elected on their proposed policies, yet they don't have to act on them.
There should be a reset option if a political party doesn't act on a percentage of their policies.
Mojocvh said:
V88Dicky said:
Mojocvh said:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand...
Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
For God's sake, will you Europe
The Conservative Party believes Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its Member States. A Conservative Government would __never allow Britain to slide into a federal Europe. The Conservative Party supports an open, flexible Europe, whose priorities should be what really matter to the peoples of Europe: global competitiveness, global poverty and global warming__. A Conservative Government would be active and energetic in the EU, promoting Britain's interest and engaging in the shared challenges all European countries face.
Labour and the Lib Dems promised the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty but broke their promise. Their behaviour was a betrayal of democracy. The Lisbon Treaty has now been absorbed as part of European law and the new posts it created have now been established. They cannot be made to disappear and the Lisbon Treaty cannot now be reversed.
So the Conservative Party has set out a series of measures to deal with the worst problems caused by the Treaty.
A Conservative Government would change the law so that never again would a government be able to agree to a Treaty that hands over areas of power from Britain to the EU without a referendum.
A Conservative Government would also introduce a new law, in the form of a United Kingdom Sovereignty Bill, to make it clear that ultimate authority stays in this country, in our Parliament.
Furthermore, as the Lisbon Treaty contains a mechanism to abolish vetoes and transfer power without the need for a new Treaty, a Conservative Government would change the law so that any use of a so-called ratchet clause would require full approval by Parliament.
These policies deal with future problems, but there are still problems we are facing today, which will now be made worse by the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. These problems boil down to the steady and unaccountable intrusion of the European Union into almost every aspect of our lives.
A Conservative Government will address the worst of these problems by negotiating for three specific guarantees over powers that we believe should reside with Britain, not the EU:
* A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights (CFR). Tony Blair told us that he had obtained an opt-out from the CFR, but he did not. As Ministers have subsequently admitted, he only obtained a 'clarification' as to how it would apply. We want to upgrade this to a full opt-out so that the CFR, which for instance would interfere with our trade union legislation, cannot be made to apply in Britain.
* Greater protection against EU encroachment into the UK's Criminal Justice System. Lisbon provides us with an 'opt-in' over criminal justice matters but we want broader protection provided by an additional protocol. This would protect against EU judges extending their control over our Criminal Justice System, and we also want to ensure that only British authorities can initiate criminal investigations in Britain.
* Restoration of national control over social and employment legislation. Lastly, we want to restore national control over those parts of social and employment legislation which have proved most damaging to the British economy. For instance, we would seek guarantees over the application of the Working Time Directive in our public services, such as the fire service and the NHS.
My question is this, with the treaty ratified, how do they intend to prosecute these negotiations without being told to go back to their island like a troupe of monkeys?
s stop going on about a non-problem? (quoted for posterity)
So you have no RATIONAL argument then??
Edited by Bill on Friday 12th March 13:00
elster said:
Mojocvh said:
So you are saying that policy document is in fact a pack of lies??
Can you show me a policy document that isn't infact complete BS?The problem with politics is that they get elected on their proposed policies, yet they don't have to act on them.
There should be a reset option if a political party doesn't act on a percentage of their policies.
10 Pence Short said:
tangent police said:
UKIP would be the only people who actually would do anything and then the President and all the important gravy trainers and high court of superiority would send them packing like fools.
UKIP are the gravy trainers. All I can say then is that the 'rest' must all be on
the Luxury Class 'BISTO' train!
At least UKIP 'tell' it as it is, and without the need to lie and without mincing of words.
They are getting my vote, regardless.
Noo Labour back in. Totalitarianism in full. Doomed
Tories in. More of same.
Libs in. Throw your car keys away.
Greens. Throw you 'car' away as well. AND Perish the thought.
UKIP. Probably not a lot better but at least we will still have free speech, ie tell the EU to go and...
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