Broon and Madelson, plausible?

[s2art]

From; http://cryptome.org/mi6-sd36.htm



'The Security and Intelligence services keep on file indiscretions, however politically sensitive, of crown servants, MP's etc - An example of that would be the sexual encounter that occurred between Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson (interrupted accidentally by a member of Michael Meacher's staff) in Gordon Brown's office at the House of Commons while in opposition and is still only known to a very select number of Commons and Whitehall hierarchy. The services are also aware of the sexual relationship between Mr Hague and Mr Coe.'

[grumbledoak]

Cannot see why not. Mandelson openly gay and long term rumours about Gordon. Coe is gay, though I didn't know about Hague.

[Balmoral Green]

I don't buy the Mandelson/Brown one, I would credit Mandelson with better taste in men/boys TBH.

[s2art]

Balmoral Green said:

I don't buy the Mandelson/Brown one, I would credit Mandelson with better taste in men/boys TBH.

Wouldnt this have been around the time Brown/Blair were competing for leadership of Labour? Perhaps Mandy was just covering all the possibilities.

[Puggit]

s2art said:

Balmoral Green said:

I don't buy the Mandelson/Brown one, I would credit Mandelson with better taste in men/boys TBH.

Wouldnt this have been around the time Brown/Blair were competing for leadership of Labour? Perhaps Mandy was just uncovering all the possibilities.

EFA

[mybrainhurts]

.....Hey, look, fellas, Mandelson's under the table

[Mazda Baiter]

I seem to remember from the celebrity urban legends thread that Hagues marriage has a tinge of Lavender about it, and didn't he like his conquests a little bit less antique than Coe? All allegedly of course.

[Dr Jekyll]

If GB was gay it would have been public by now, the conservatives tried very hard to find evidence and couldn't.

Mind you, now that BMW are going FWD you can't be sure about anything any more.

[Northern Munkee]

Is that how Broon lost his eye in a tragic skull fking accident?

Never knew that about Coe, still I always preferred Steve Ovett (so to speak).

[AndrewW-G]

Personally I don’t think he's gay, simply a case of an ugly greasy charmless tit unable to find somebody stupid enough to put up with him, until he was almost 50 and living in Downing Street!...........a classic case of the Mrs Merton Debbie McGee/Paul Daniels joke

And as we all know mandy prefers his victims to be younger, slimmer, ethnic and far more attractive than winky could ever manage

[FourWheelDrift]

Who is http://cryptome.org ? Apart from illegally hosting Microsoft copyrighted software last year.

Sounds like one of the anarchistic types sites that revel in kitchen foil hat conspiracies.

Edited to add - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptome

It's an "activists" wet dream website.


"Anonymous has restored information censored by the British Government from Chapter 36 of MI6: Inside the Covert World of Her Majesty's Secret Intelligence Service, by Stephen Dorril. It is published here to provide public information on MI6 which Mr. Dorril could not, and has been done so without his knowledge or permission. "

So how have they done that, made it up? Guessed or used a leaked document? A document that has been leaked (whether real of not) to undermine someone else in government. Happens all the time.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 23 March 19:55

[Magog]

I've certainly heard things about Hague, a friend of my mothers used to live in the same block of flats as him (tenuous I know), and apparently there was frequently young conservatives around, presumably looking for tutelage. Perhaps it was nothing, perhaps good old fashioned Spartan Pederasty, who knows.

[Dr Jekyll]

The most surprising thing about that extract is the comment that MI6 officers have small arms training! Learning about small arms, or large arms come to that, I could understand. But why on earth would they need shooting practice? Don't we have the army for that?

[mybrainhurts]

Good point, they'll be arming traffic wardens next...

[s2art]

From the New Statesman;

ANATOMY OF A FEUD
1994 After the death of the Labour leader John Smith in 1994, Peter Mandelson sidelines his old friend Gordon Brown and backs the more popular Tony Blair for the leadership. “We’ve been betrayed,” Brown tells one ally. “I love you, but I can destroy you,” Mandelson warns Brown.

1995 Blair’s attempts at détente fail when he confronts Brown. “Peter? He’s been going around telling everyone that I’m gay. And I’m not gay,” Brown fumes.

1996 Displaying his often unacknowledged sense of humour, Brown acidly remarks to a Tribune rally: “Peter asked me for 10p to phone a friend the other day. I said: ‘Here, take 20p and ring them all.’ When people ask me if I have a close relationship with Mandelson, I answer: ‘How would I know? I haven’t spoken to him for 18 months.’”
1998 Mandelson is forced to resign from the cabinet for the first time after the Guardian reports that he received a secret loan of £373,000 from his ministerial colleague Geoffrey Robinson. Mandelson blames Brown’s pugnacious spin doctor Charlie Whelan for the leak.
2001 Accused of unreasonably aiding the Hinduja brothers in their quest for British citizenship, Mandelson resigns as Northern Ireland secretary and loses his status as joint election co-ordinator with Brown. Mandelson is subsequently exonerated by the Hammond inquiry.
2007 Asked whether he fears being replaced as the UK’s European commissioner when Brown becomes prime minister, Mandelson replies: “I don’t know whether this is going to come as a disappointment to him, but he can’t actually fire me. So like it or not, I’m afraid he will have to accept me as commissioner until November 2009.”
2008 On 3 October, Mandelson makes an extraordinary return to the cabinet as business secretary. Ten days later he becomes Baron Mandelson of Foy and takes his seat in the House of Lords.
2008 Mandelson is said to have “dripped pure poison” about Gordon Brown to George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, just weeks before his return to government. Mandelson denounces the leaking of the conversation as “straight out of a dirty-tricks department”.
2009 Brown hands Mandelson overall control of a new superdepartment, with a portfolio including business regulation, universities and space travel. Awarded the Soviet-style title of First Secretary of State, Mandelson cements his position as de facto deputy prime minister.