President Khazai cosying up the Taliban..

[CivicMan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/conc...

Maybe I'm being simplistic, but if President Khazai (allegedly in power due to a huge amount of corruption), is now referring to the coalition troops in Afghanistan as "invaders", is enjoying tete a tete chats with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, and is reportedly having cosy meetings with the Taliban, then just what the hell is the point in risking our troops for one moment more in that god forsaken place?

Edited by CivicMan on Friday 2nd April 20:27

[Muntu]

Beats giving the taliban money, like our glorious government does:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/14/taliba...

[FourWheelDrift]

Would be a shame to spend all that money on them and never get to use them. Cheaper than conventional warfare as it's already paid for and it worked for the US in 1945.

[JohnnyJones]

It is such a shame what has happened in Afghanistan.

It was such a beautiful place when the hippies were passing through en route for India in the late 60's / early 70's.

I wish the world could still be like that.

[Pageo]

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

[Muntu]

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

And when do you go back to school then?

[Pageo]

Finished school last year.. when do you go back?

[Semi hemi]

Pageo said:

Finished school last year.. when do you go back?

I take it that current affairs didn't feature highly on your curriculum

Edited by Semi hemi on Saturday 3rd April 00:25

[The Nur]

FourWheelDrift said:

Would be a shame to spend all that money on them and never get to use them. Cheaper than conventional warfare as it's already paid for and it worked for the US in 1945.

Is that a joke or are you serious?

Eta: I've just read that over and it sounds quite arsey, it is not intended in an offensive way, I'm just wondering.

Edited by The Nur on Saturday 3rd April 00:32

[Jimbeaux]

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

[Jimbeaux]

Pageo said:

Finished school last year.. when do you go back?

And you're from Kent even; no excuse!

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 3rd April 01:15

[Negative Creep]

Pageo said:

let the russians back in?

Yes that worked really well last time

[5unny]

CivicMan said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/conc...

Maybe I'm being simplistic, but if President Khazai (allegedly in power due to a huge amount of corruption), is now referring to the coalition troops in Afghanistan as "invaders", is enjoying tete a tete chats with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, and is reportedly having cosy meetings with the Taliban, then just what the hell is the point in risking our troops for one moment more in that god forsaken place?

Edited by CivicMan on Friday 2nd April 20:27

PM Maliki of Iraq did more than just have meetings with Ahmadinejad post Iraq invasion. During this period Iraq-Iran ties become very strong and this too at a time when Iran was supporting insurgent groups who were fighting the Americans and Brits.

We couldn't stop that then so there is no chance of stopping
Afghan-Iran ties from developing.

And no we are not in Afghanistan fighting Karzai's war like the Telegraph suggests. We are there to stop Jihadi Islamist nutters from using Afghan soil to plan attacks on Western targets. Moreover we are there to firm up America's geo political interests in the region. It's naive to think our troops are there primarily for the benefit of the Afghan people.

As for the Taliban - well our own Foreign Secretary has told the Karzai government to talk with the Taliban. At MIT Milliband said ""The idea of political engagement with those who would directly or indirectly attack our troops is difficult," Miliband said. "But dialogue is not appeasement, and political space is not the same as veto power or domination."

"Now is the time for the Afghans to pursue a political settlement with as much vigor and energy as we are pursuing the military and civilian effort," he said. ".

The Americans are now saying the same thing: General Stanley McChrystal said "“As a soldier, my personal feeling is that there’s been enough fighting,” he said. “What I think we do is try to shape conditions which allow people to come to a truly equitable solution to how the Afghan people are governed.”

Asked if he would be content to see Taliban leaders in a future government in Kabul, he said: “I think any Afghans can play a role if they focus on the future, and not the past.”

Karzai is just doing what his masters are telling him.

[Oakey]

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

[Muntu]

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

I should say so

[Oakey]

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

I should say so

Elaborate then. I'm not being sarcy, I'd like to know for what reasons we had to invade Iraq. WMD? Terrorists? What?

Edited by Oakey on Saturday 3rd April 13:19

[Muntu]

Oakey said:

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

I should say so

Elaborate then. I'm not being sarcy, I'd like to know for what reasons we had to invade Iraq. WMD? Terrorists? What?

Edited by Oakey on Saturday 3rd April 13:19

They were in breech of the terms of the ceasefire they agreed to after Gulf War 1.

[silver.fox.2008]

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

I should say so

Elaborate then. I'm not being sarcy, I'd like to know for what reasons we had to invade Iraq. WMD? Terrorists? What?

Edited by Oakey on Saturday 3rd April 13:19

They were in breech of the terms of the ceasefire they agreed to after Gulf War 1.

Were those the UN ceasefire terms?

[Jimbeaux]

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

Not the point; I question that recurring chestnut of "Illegal invasion".

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 3rd April 15:39

[Jimbeaux]

silver.fox.2008 said:

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Muntu said:

Oakey said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pageo said:

The War with the taliban should have been won by now ( in afghanistan ) If Bush Hadnt ilegally invaded Iraq. All those US troops could have been sent into Afghanistan and instead of iraq! The taliban would be non existant. Just my view on it. I dont trust that Hamid karwhathisname as he seems to be making friends with iran and doing everything we didnt want him to do...

To solve this problem we could just withdraw US and NATO troops and let the russians back in? Putin wants to Kill some terrorists to avenge the moscow blasts? Sounds like a plan

There it is again! That "Illegal invasion" thing. Stupid never dies!!

???? We had good reason to invade Iraq then?

I should say so

Elaborate then. I'm not being sarcy, I'd like to know for what reasons we had to invade Iraq. WMD? Terrorists? What?

Edited by Oakey on Saturday 3rd April 13:19

They were in breech of the terms of the ceasefire they agreed to after Gulf War 1.

Were those the UN ceasefire terms?

Yes. And before you say it, one of those UN terms allowed for military action if resolutions were not followed; regardless of how the UN voted afterwards. As I always say, if you want to discuss "Illegal wars", don't leave out St. Clinton's go at Kosovo.