The end of illegal downloads

[UncappedTag]

I wonder if this will be to target the torrent users over the usenet community. Who knows?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_20...

[4nonymous]

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

[Gaspode]

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

[Matt..]

Time to use SSL maybe?...

[davido140]

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

[Taita]

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

The worms have just exploded out of my can.


Ooo-er.

[crmcatee]

Bring back vinyl - the only true media you couldn't bootleg.


Ok so you could make a crap copy onto a C90 cassette.

[Blue Meanie]

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

[davido140]

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

itunes/ipod. horrifically restrictive system. so I dont use it.

[davido140]

dibbers006 said:

<naive mode>
But if there was no more Illegal Downloading the Record/ Film/ Game Industry would not be losing any money and could then lower prices.

In the same way Insurance would if we all stopped claiming and how Petrol Prices drop when Oil does.
</naive mode>

No?!

I really wonder if these industries beleive that if illegal downloading was stopped 100% that everyone will buy the products instead and the missing billions will magically appear in their bank accounts?

[Blue Meanie]

davido140 said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

itunes/ipod. horrifically restrictive system. so I dont use it.

You know that other devices can play AAC files, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding...

[Dick Dastardly]

This will mean I spend less money on music. The way I check out new bands is by downloading their stuff. If it's cack then I delete it, if it's good I go buy all of their albums. I am currently buying a few dozen albums a month, most of which from bands I'd never heard of a few weeks ago. I do this as I was sick of buying albums only for me to hate them. If I can't sample them anymore then I won't go back to buying any old thing.

[Blue Meanie]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/illegal...

[Plotloss]

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

itunes/ipod. horrifically restrictive system. so I dont use it.

You know that other devices can play AAC files, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding...

AAC is open.

AAC with DRM isn't, its Apple platform specific.

[300bhp/ton]

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

+1

And targetting the end user is not the way to stop it. The only true impact would be to enforce ALL ISP's and their providers to vet and regulate the sites the host.

[Blue Meanie]

Plotloss said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

itunes/ipod. horrifically restrictive system. so I dont use it.

You know that other devices can play AAC files, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding...

AAC is open.

AAC with DRM isn't, its Apple platform specific.

iTunes does not have DRM. (on music/podcasts, anyway)

Edited by Blue Meanie on Thursday 8th April 14:21

[RobCrezz]

There will always be ways around these measures.

[emicen]

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Looking at it the other way. If illegal downloading was ever comprehensively stopped, there would be nothing to stop the music and film industries taking the mickey with prices.

Sure, iTunes allows most singles to be bought for 79-99p but consider for a minute the profits still involved at that level. Typical number one will easily sell over 100,000 copies and add on top the payments for airtime on the radio and VJ stations, performances on TV and at festivals not to mention tours. Theyre still clearing up.

Movies costing $100m but pulling $100m at their first weekend at the box office, continuing in the box office for 6-8 weeks and then still costing £20 for a £5 disc in HD Bluray or £12 for a 50p disc in normal DVD format.

Whilst wrong, piracy is the only market force showing people arent happy getting raped for the material.

[Plotloss]

Blue Meanie said:

Plotloss said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Blue Meanie said:

davido140 said:

Gaspode said:

4nonymous said:

IMHO there will never be an end to illegal downloads.

True. There will always be people who don't see anything wrong with stealing.

Agreed, £20 for a Bluray? £11 to see a film in the cinema, and £5 for your popcorn? £8 for an album download you can only play on a specific brand of portable music device?

Daylight robbery.

Which device is that?

itunes/ipod. horrifically restrictive system. so I dont use it.

You know that other devices can play AAC files, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding...

AAC is open.

AAC with DRM isn't, its Apple platform specific.

iTunes does not have DRM. (on music/podcasts, anyway)

Edited by Blue Meanie on Thursday 8th April 14:21

That's only been the case for the last year.

[Blue Meanie]

And?