Gay Marriage

[SmoothRB]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 12 April 2010 at 14:45

[Dare2Fail]

SmoothRB said:

Should the state institutionalise gay relationships in the way? What is the point?

What's the point of the state institutionalising straight relationships 'in the way'?

[Mr E Driver]

What is the point of your thread? what is 'in the way?' WTF are you on about?

[Dare2Fail]

My understanding is that those that want a Gay marriage would like it to have the same rights/recognition as a straight marriage. This seems perfectly reasonable. What's the problem with that?

[AndrewW-G]

SmoothRB said:

Should the state institutionalise gay relationships in the way? What is the point?

Why not tell us all what you think

[stitched]

Under the equality rules then gay couples should have the same status as heterosexual couples.
Trouble being you can't force churches to perform a ceremony, Imagine trying to force a mosque to wed a gay couple

[Heliosphan]

Gay couples adopting is something I'm not comfortable with.

Why? Nothing other than my own instinct in relation to the role models that kids need when they're growing up. Who wants to be the kid at school with two dads? Whatever you think, no kid at school wants to be "different".

Therefore, I also think there's an element of selfishness on the part of gay couples who adopt.

It might be an old fashioned view but there you go.

[stitched]

SmoothRB said:

stitched said:

Under the equality rules then gay couples should have the same status as heterosexual couples.

Why?

Didn't say I agree with it but this is the way it is.
Equality means equality.

[Dare2Fail]

SmoothRB said:

Dare2Fail said:

My understanding is that those that want a Gay marriage would like it to have the same rights/recognition as a straight marriage. This seems perfectly reasonable. What's the problem with that?

Why?

If straight people wanted to jump off a cliff would gay people?

Why not?

If you don't give a gay marriage the same recognition then by definition it is something less than a straight marriage. All they want is for their marriage to be of the same standing as a straight marriage. It's got nothing to do with them wanting to 'copy' straight people.

What is your opinion of it? Why do you feel that a gay marriage shouldn't receive the same recognition?

[Parrot of Doom]

I'd rather the state recognise all partnerships, not just those that involve sex. So if a carer looks after their parent for 20 years, at significant cost to their own life, then that relationship should be treated for tax purposes as just the same as a partnership.

[boobles]

SmoothRB said:

Should the state institutionalise gay relationships in the way? What is the point?

Why, are you going to propose to your boyfriend?

[TheEnd]

I wonder what happens in a gay divorce? would they both have to give half their money to the other?

[eldar]

Dare2Fail said:

My understanding is that those that want a Gay marriage would like it to have the same rights/recognition as a straight marriage. This seems perfectly reasonable. What's the problem with that?

Do you have zero/one/two stag/hen nights? Which parents pay for the wedding? Just too complicated

[Dixie68]

SmoothRB said:

stitched said:

Under the equality rules then gay couples should have the same status as heterosexual couples.

Why?

Why not? What is your problem with it?

[anonymous-user]

Some of the recent threads started by the OP:

Gay Marriage (21)
Grayling suggests B&Bs should be able to bar gay guests (125)
Why so many Eastern Europeans around? (114)
Nick Griffin to be stripped of degree by Cambridge. (22)
Minister warns of 'inbred' Muslims (87

What exactly are your motives on this forum?

[Dare2Fail]

SmoothRB said:

Is that the sole intellectual justification you have? 'Because the gays want it'? That is weak, just like asking (the 'opposition') for reasons why gay marriage should not be allowed. Can you assert no REASON for gay marriage in itself?

Gay marriage can never be the same as conventional marriage. One is opposite sex couples, the other isn't.

I'm loving that 'because the gays want it' cannot be a valid justification, but at the same time because you say 'it isn't the same as a conventional marriage' is perfectly reasonable. Can you see the hypocrisy?

I'd also like to point out that both myself and others have asked you your opinions in a perfectly reasonable manner and you have failed time and time again to answer. Therefore, I am done debating this with you as you clearly just want to try and (badly) pick holes in other peoples opinions.

[Dixie68]

SmoothRB said:

Symbolica said:

Some of the recent threads started by the OP:

Gay Marriage (21)
Grayling suggests B&Bs should be able to bar gay guests (125)
Why so many Eastern Europeans around? (114)
Nick Griffin to be stripped of degree by Cambridge. (22)
Minister warns of 'inbred' Muslims (87

What exactly are your motives on this forum?

What's your motivation? Love of humanity? To spread the word of God?

Wow... you're not an actual bigot are you? I thought you lot had died out?

[Dixie68]

SmoothRB said:

Why do you want my opinion? So you can denounce me as a homophobe? Nice argument...oh you don't have one.

Only if your opinions are homophobic surely?

[CommanderJameson]

SmoothRB said:

Dixie68 said:

SmoothRB said:

Why do you want my opinion? So you can denounce me as a homophobe? Nice argument...oh you don't have one.

Only if your opinions are homophobic surely?

Why is questioning gay marriage homophobic?

Why would you question gay marriage? What's the difference between two blokes getting wed, and a bloke and a bird getting wed and having no children?

[Dixie68]

SmoothRB said:

Why is questioning gay marriage homophobic?

Or maybe labeling people like me homphobe is an anti-intelectual device you use to kill debate and discussion? Nobody wants to be denounced do they?

That's not what I wrote at all is it? I said that if your opinions are homophobic then you would be labelled as homophobic - simple statement of fact I would've thought no?
But as you haven't told us your opinion of gay marriage and why you think it's not acceptable then we'll never know if you're homophobic or not will we?

Edited by Dixie68 on Sunday 11th April 06:40