Directly elected Police Chiefs!
Discussion
As a serving officer, this fills me with dread. The thought of Politicians getting even more involved in Policing is just to scary to think about. Labour has already devastated Policing with it's interfering and 'Policing pledge'. I was going to post all the arguments, but the Inspector Gadget blog says it so much better:
http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/pe...
The mother and her latest thug of a partner were down at the local pub when the team arrived. The news had travelled fast and the bloke had come back and was kicking off in the street. Local neighbours, despite knowing of the physical and mental health of the children, had sided with him and were shouting abuse at the Social Services team.
I have seen this many times in my service, and I know that all of you serving in the emergency services who read this, will also have witnessed similar scenes.
The children were taken into care and will be fostered by a couple who will love them, the adults were arrested and the CPS will charge them with child neglect and they will, on conviction, be evicted from the house.
What actually happened? The children went to their grandparents, who are only just older than me by the way, and who must be part of the reason why the mother was so useless. The CPS did charge for neglect and the happy couple kept the house. Neither of them work, she is caring for her children and he has a bad back.
A months wages says she will be pregnant again by the summer.
These are our customers under the Policing Pledge, and these people will decide who will be the locally elected Police Chief
http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/pe...
The mother and her latest thug of a partner were down at the local pub when the team arrived. The news had travelled fast and the bloke had come back and was kicking off in the street. Local neighbours, despite knowing of the physical and mental health of the children, had sided with him and were shouting abuse at the Social Services team.
I have seen this many times in my service, and I know that all of you serving in the emergency services who read this, will also have witnessed similar scenes.
The children were taken into care and will be fostered by a couple who will love them, the adults were arrested and the CPS will charge them with child neglect and they will, on conviction, be evicted from the house.
What actually happened? The children went to their grandparents, who are only just older than me by the way, and who must be part of the reason why the mother was so useless. The CPS did charge for neglect and the happy couple kept the house. Neither of them work, she is caring for her children and he has a bad back.
A months wages says she will be pregnant again by the summer.
These are our customers under the Policing Pledge, and these people will decide who will be the locally elected Police Chief
anonymous said:
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Really! So when all the Police Officers are walking around some sink hole, because Wayne and Waynetta are making lots of noise and '"I'm gonna ring the papers innit", you'll e happy with that. Look at the corruption that pervades Politics. Have you ever dealt with a local 'councillor'. The number of times 'councillors' ring up because they don't like the way a neighbour has (legally) parked and demand we take action 'because I'm a councillor'.Forget investigating serious crime. That all goes on behind the scenes. We'll have some idiot, with no experience whatsoever, directing Police to what he/she thinks s gong to get votes. Not what's right.
Can only be good.
As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
Einion Yrth said:
The police have to be accountable to the public somehow, currently they do not appear to be. What would you suggest? The status quo is not acceptable.
I think you need to take a long hard look at Politicians. You have taken a very simplistic view, through rose coloured glasses.Saddle bum said:
Can only be good.
As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
Are you really that naive?As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
Elroy Blue said:
Einion Yrth said:
The police have to be accountable to the public somehow, currently they do not appear to be. What would you suggest? The status quo is not acceptable.
I think you need to take a long hard look at Politicians. You have taken a very simplistic view, through rose coloured glasses.Einion Yrth said:
Elroy Blue said:
Einion Yrth said:
The police have to be accountable to the public somehow, currently they do not appear to be. What would you suggest? The status quo is not acceptable.
I think you need to take a long hard look at Politicians. You have taken a very simplistic view, through rose coloured glasses.Degenerates don't like having Police on their estates protecting the people who just want to get on with their lives. We are 'harrasing them'. Funnily enough, they're just the kind of people that local rags love to put on their front pages, with suitable comments from 'outraged' councillors. So where is the line drawn?
Saddle bum said:
Can only be good.
As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
sounds great in theory!As chavs are in the minority, the majority will judge on performance.
If High Streets are made safer at throwing out time and sink estates are subdued, the Chief Honcho will be re-elected.
If GATSOs start appearing on every street corner and you get asked to "Show me your papers" after farting out of turn, he will not.
Fittster said:
Would Blair have stayed at the Met if the public could have voted him out after his officers executed a Brazilian?
Making the police more accountable is a good thing in my opinion, seems to work in the states.
It often fails in the States and they don't elect State or Federal Officers.Making the police more accountable is a good thing in my opinion, seems to work in the states.
The Police would become accountable to a Politician. You really think Politicians are accountable??
Elroy Blue said:
How was that patronising??
You just can't help yourself can you?Elroy Blue said:
You really believe that a Politician will suddenly solve everything!
And apparently you can't read either, where have I said that?Elroy Blue said:
We are not here to be your 'servants'. We are here to uphold the law.
Traditionally in a Liberal Democracy you police at our behest and with our consent. Anything else is symptomatic of a police state.Elroy Blue said:
You may not like some of those laws, but uphold them we will, whether through advice or other sanction.
Laws made by those very politicians you are so scathing of. A logical inconsistency I would have said.Elroy Blue said:
Degenerates don't like having Police on their estates protecting the people who just want to get on with their lives. We are 'harrasing them'. Funnily enough, they're just the kind of people that local rags love to put on their front pages, with suitable comments from 'outraged' councillors. So where is the line drawn?
Where the line is drawn was perhaps what I was attempting to arrive at by debate. Plainly however you cannot see beyond 'I am the law.' It is pointless attempting to debate it with you.Elroy Blue said:
Einion Yrth said:
The police have to be accountable to the public somehow, currently they do not appear to be. What would you suggest? The status quo is not acceptable.
I think you need to take a long hard look at Politicians. You have taken a very simplistic view, through rose coloured glasses.The concept of directly elected Police Chiefs would not get my vote, ever. If that makes sense.
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