Wow.. .common sense at last..

[joe_90]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire...

Good.. lying toerags.

[Funk]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if someone is found inside your home who shouldn't be there, then all bets are off - do to them what you like. A few more dead burglars will do more to discourage burglary than wrist-slaps and hugs.

[Halb]

Good news.
The CPS dropped it because they realised the lying scrote was just that, lying! If he had stuck to his first story then the defendant would be going to court. And it would be up to 12 peers to convict or aquit him.

[Simbu]

Funk said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if someone is found inside your home who shouldn't be there, then all bets are off - do to them what you like. A few more dead burglars will do more to discourage burglary than wrist-slaps and hugs.

While i agree with your point of view, sadly i suspect high-profile cases like this will just lead to criminals upping the stakes in their favour by going around tooled up to kill more often. When this happens how do we counter it?

The only way i can see is to make it too risky a proposition to the criminals by relaxing home defense in a big way and where do you draw that line? Relax ownership of weapons? Allow ownership of defensive measures? (Where can i find a beartrap )

[Halb]

Simbu said:

Funk said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if someone is found inside your home who shouldn't be there, then all bets are off - do to them what you like. A few more dead burglars will do more to discourage burglary than wrist-slaps and hugs.

While i agree with your point of view, sadly i suspect high-profile cases like this will just lead to criminals upping the stakes in their favour by going around tooled up to kill more often. When this happens how do we counter it?

They go round tooled up anyway. The ones in the OP were.

[Funk]

Halb said:

Simbu said:

Funk said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if someone is found inside your home who shouldn't be there, then all bets are off - do to them what you like. A few more dead burglars will do more to discourage burglary than wrist-slaps and hugs.

While i agree with your point of view, sadly i suspect high-profile cases like this will just lead to criminals upping the stakes in their favour by going around tooled up to kill more often. When this happens how do we counter it?

They go round tooled up anyway. The ones in the OP were.

This.

And a man should have a right to defend his home. I know if I found someone in my property, I'd do my utmost to ruin them.

[grumbledoak]

It is sad that this took so long. Just how difficult was it to ask yourself whether or not the two housebreakers might also be willing to lie about it?

[DonkeyApple]

How many more budding young footballers who have never harmed a fly must be taken from us.

[FraserLFA]

The CPS and the defendant will get a lot of flack for this.

God on them for making the right decision though. As someone above said, if someone's in your house who isn't suppose to be there, do what you like.

My house, my rules.

[Yeast Lord]

My god repost. I posted this ages ago and compared it to the bloke that got banged up for banging up a burglar.

Edited by Yeast Lord on Monday 19th April 12:51

[Yeast Lord]

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t...

[Funk]

Would you like a cookie?

[bonsai]

I am glad the burglar got killed. Top result.

[FraserLFA]

Funk said:

Would you like a cookie?

Well if you're handing them out...

[fflyingdog]

+1

bonsai said:

I am glad the burglar got killed. Top result.

[Jasandjules]

Home Owner 1, Burglar 0.

Good stuff, sensible decision for once.

[MX7]

FraserLFA said:

My house, my rules.

Well, not really. The law of the land still applies in your house.

I think it would be a can of worms if we were able to kill intruders, and would no doubt be manipulated. I don't see anything wrong with the system that we have, and today's case goes to show that the system works, although common sense is sometimes lacking.

[markcoznottz]

Simbu said:

Funk said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if someone is found inside your home who shouldn't be there, then all bets are off - do to them what you like. A few more dead burglars will do more to discourage burglary than wrist-slaps and hugs.

While i agree with your point of view, sadly i suspect high-profile cases like this will just lead to criminals upping the stakes in their favour by going around tooled up to kill more often. When this happens how do we counter it?

The only way i can see is to make it too risky a proposition to the criminals by relaxing home defense in a big way and where do you draw that line? Relax ownership of weapons? Allow ownership of defensive measures? (Where can i find a beartrap )

Easy. Mandatory 6 six year sentence for carrying a knife, 12 for a firearm. And none of this early release s**t either.

[FraserLFA]

MX7 said:

FraserLFA said:

My house, my rules.

Well, not really. The law of the land still applies in your house.

I think it would be a can of worms if we were able to kill intruders, and would no doubt be manipulated. I don't see anything wrong with the system that we have, and today's case goes to show that the system works, although common sense is sometimes lacking.

I'm fully aware of the law, i'm saying i think it should be a policy of my land my rules. If we were allowed to stab them,i bet crime rates would drop. This is an over exaggeration, but currently, the good guy is often made to be the bad guy and criminals do not have much to fear, especially with prison overcrowding as well, meaning sentencing guide lines cannot always be adhered to and often a slap on the wrist is all that can be offered.

[monthefish]

Jasandjules said:

Home Owner 1, Burglar 0.

Good stuff, sensible decision for once.