Bring back Workhouses!
Discussion
After visiting the National Trust Workhouse in Southwell the other day and learning about the "poor law" and workhouse system, it struck me what a bloody good idea it is. I believe that a modern version should be brought back in to combat the career benefits underclass that has taken a hold of this country.
It would surely cost less overall than paying all these feckless and idle wasters benefits to do nothing whilst sat in a free house, their numerous offsping committing petty crimes and costing the NHS a fortune through their lifestyle induced ill health. I'm not saying all benefits people should go into a workhouse, but certainly those who show no inclination to better themselves, of which there seems to be a rapidly increasing number. It would certainly give them an incentive to get off their arses and contribute something back to society.
Can anyone think of a reason why a modernised version would not be good for the country, both economically and socially?
It would surely cost less overall than paying all these feckless and idle wasters benefits to do nothing whilst sat in a free house, their numerous offsping committing petty crimes and costing the NHS a fortune through their lifestyle induced ill health. I'm not saying all benefits people should go into a workhouse, but certainly those who show no inclination to better themselves, of which there seems to be a rapidly increasing number. It would certainly give them an incentive to get off their arses and contribute something back to society.
Can anyone think of a reason why a modernised version would not be good for the country, both economically and socially?
Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 26th April 10:21
Quite a discussion about modern workhouses on PH here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
A very good idea, in my opinion.
Oli.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
A very good idea, in my opinion.
Oli.
P_J_R said:
I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.
If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.
90% of people in 19th century workhouses had not committed any crimes.
What are people suggesting here - that new sttle workhouses are -
an alternative to jail for criminals?
a scheme for the unemployed?
What work do you give "unemployed" people?
Who "qualifies" to end up in a workhouse?
Do we make exceptions for those who are ill (mentally or physically)?
If so, how do we differentiate?
What are people suggesting here - that new sttle workhouses are -
an alternative to jail for criminals?
a scheme for the unemployed?
What work do you give "unemployed" people?
Who "qualifies" to end up in a workhouse?
Do we make exceptions for those who are ill (mentally or physically)?
If so, how do we differentiate?
Mazda Baiter said:
P_J_R said:
I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.
If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.
Great plan.
Eric Mc said:
Mazda Baiter said:
P_J_R said:
I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.
If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.
Great plan.
A far better option is to test a persons parenting ability. We do this now if you want to adopt. Fail the assessment and you don't get a child. Pass and you do.
There's something wrong in a society that deems it important enough to do this for adoption but yet lets any old unsuitable scrote knock out 10 promising footballers in as many years. It's not about I.Q it's about how much you'll nurture the child.
Eric Mc said:
Mazda Baiter said:
P_J_R said:
I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.
If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.
Great plan.
rhinochopig said:
Eric Mc said:
Mazda Baiter said:
P_J_R said:
I've been saying that for years; and whilst we're at it, make everybody have an IQ test before being allowed to breed; no pass, no offspring. Sadly it's all too late, this country is fked.
If you can prove that "IQ" (flawed as the test is) is more influenced by genetics than environment then I might agree with you.On the other hand, a high "IQ" score does not make you a responsible parent... Which is where the problem lies, to which you are inferring.
Great plan.
A far better option is to test a persons parenting ability. We do this now if you want to adopt. Fail the assessment and you don't get a child. Pass and you do.
There's something wrong in a society that deems it important enough to do this for adoption but yet lets any old unsuitable scrote knock out 10 promising footballers in as many years. It's not about I.Q it's about how much you'll nurture the child.
Soovy said:
A great idea this.
Bandy legged trollops who get pregnant at 16 should be denied council houses and put in secure accomodation like this. They should be put to work for food, and their children educated and brought up properly.
A house full of bandy legged 16 year old trollops Where there's muck there's brass.Bandy legged trollops who get pregnant at 16 should be denied council houses and put in secure accomodation like this. They should be put to work for food, and their children educated and brought up properly.
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