Tories plan bonfire of Labour laws
Tories plan bonfire of Labour laws
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Puggit

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49,813 posts

278 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.

Edited to add link http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

Edited by Puggit on Sunday 2nd May 06:49

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Puggit said:
Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.
I remember when my Father got back from the Falklands we had a street party (although I was too young to take part). Do you think we will have as big a celebration this time?

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Puggit said:
Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.
Perhaps.
Until we see the detail, judgement should be reserved.
Because, it might be that such a policy might alienate all those charged with enforcing those laws.
Piper, pay, tune.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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WhoseGeneration said:
Puggit said:
Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.
Perhaps.
Until we see the detail, judgement should be reserved.
Because, it might be that such a policy might alienate all those charged with enforcing those laws.
Piper, pay, tune.
Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)

deadslow

8,794 posts

253 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Will it include the Freedom of Information Act, which they fought heroically?

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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randlemarcus said:
Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)
I was questioning "vote winner" from the OP.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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WhoseGeneration said:
randlemarcus said:
Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)
I was questioning "vote winner" from the OP.
Ah, OK biggrin

I'd suggest that most right thinking people would welcome smaller government. I see your point.
If its not a vote winner, we are in a worse state than I thought

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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deadslow said:
Will it include the Freedom of Information Act, which they fought heroically?
If they got rid of the FOI act imagine how much public organisations could save by not having to comply = extra way to cut public spending.


Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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"This would scrap ID cards, home information packs and dozens of rarely enforced criminal offences introduced by Labour over 13 years. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

hmm, if those other criminal legislations are rarely enfcorced by get rid of them. presumably they were created to plug a gap.....

Sheets Tabuer

21,464 posts

245 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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ID cards ID cards ID cards

bounce

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Sheets Tabuer said:
ID cards ID cards ID cards

bounce
Indeed.
Beware the EU though.
"Although we are against them, our Membership means...".

Futuo

1,202 posts

212 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Going to be a huge bonfire, isn't it more than 1 piece of new legislation for every day Labour have been in power?

Rip up the smoking ban, hunting ban, increase in GATSOs, human rights for crims crap, early release blah blah and they get my vote.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Mojooo said:
They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way
Perhaps a sensible amendment to allow non-food establishments to choose? Might help the decline of the pub, fits with the self-determination thing?

Futuo

1,202 posts

212 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Mojooo said:
They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way
Why not, just let the landlord decide re pubs, fine with it most other places.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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I think the atitude has swung too far towards people thinking it is a positive thing TBH (and I agree for the record).


Imagine all the people complaining that they are now in a job which puts their health at 'risk' but wasn't there when they started!

Futuo

1,202 posts

212 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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5 pubs a day are closing because of the ban (and other things but mostly the ban) so those folk won't have any work, so how's that better?

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT

GreigM

6,740 posts

279 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Futuo said:
Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT
Shouting FACT does not make it so...its your opinion and in mine you're wrong.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Futuo said:
5 pubs a day are closing because of the ban (and other things but mostly the ban) so those folk won't have any work, so how's that better?

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT
How is it better?

They won't be dead sooner.

And its probably only a small reason as to why pubs are shutting.

Futuo

1,202 posts

212 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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GreigM said:
Futuo said:
Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT
Shouting FACT does not make it so...its your opinion and in mine you're wrong.
Was meant as a joke, bit like that tt from Britain's got talent, Piers Morgan

It is my opinion and therefore a fact


The smoking ban is the biggest single reason so many pubs are closing down, as the vast majority of their customers were smokers, so if they can't smoke they don't go out. Spoken to many a landlord and not one has said otherwise (granted town centre pubs for the young uns are okay and gastro pubs but I'm talking old fashioned drinking pubs that were just about managing pre ban, that was the final straw).

If that is not the case then none of the pubs will want to go back to allowing smoking so what has anyone got to fear from scrapping the law, unless of course perhaps the antis are not so sure of their stance and fear a lot of pubs know the ban is killing their business.......