What has Labour done to help the working man?
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I'm having a 'heated' debate shall we say with someone who is a Labour councillor, when i put to him that Labour has screwed the working class, all i get is 'Oh this is another Thatcher that we have onboard now' and Labour is the 'peoples party' and 'the Tories are the bad boys who favour the toffs' Sounds like sour grapes to me.
personally I seem to pay more tax than i ever have done in my life and for me the Labour parties stance on 'The peoples party' is feckin' bulls
t.
What i'm asking what has Labour done over the last 13 years to screw the average working bloke?
I just need some ammo and facts from the PH massive.
Thanks chaps.
personally I seem to pay more tax than i ever have done in my life and for me the Labour parties stance on 'The peoples party' is feckin' bulls
t.What i'm asking what has Labour done over the last 13 years to screw the average working bloke?
I just need some ammo and facts from the PH massive.
Thanks chaps.
Lifted from another thread:
NuLabour Audit (thanks fbrs)
Figures respectively for 1997 2007 2010
National Debt (Bn) 348bn 500bn 776bn
Budget Deficit (Bn) 0bn 84bn 171bn
Unfunded public pension liabilites 270bn 730bn 886bn (2009)
Inflation (RPI) 3% 4.5% 4.4%
Personal Debt (Bn) 503bn 1346bn 1460bn
FTSE 4800 6500 3900
Industrial Production 10Year Ann Average +1.7% +0.1% -1.6%
Manufacturing Prod 10Year Ann Average +1.9% +0.5% -1.1%
Then perhaps ask them to explain how this was the fault of Thatcher?
NuLabour Audit (thanks fbrs)
Figures respectively for 1997 2007 2010
National Debt (Bn) 348bn 500bn 776bn
Budget Deficit (Bn) 0bn 84bn 171bn
Unfunded public pension liabilites 270bn 730bn 886bn (2009)
Inflation (RPI) 3% 4.5% 4.4%
Personal Debt (Bn) 503bn 1346bn 1460bn
FTSE 4800 6500 3900
Industrial Production 10Year Ann Average +1.7% +0.1% -1.6%
Manufacturing Prod 10Year Ann Average +1.9% +0.5% -1.1%
Then perhaps ask them to explain how this was the fault of Thatcher?
This is posted a lot but it's a gem from William Hague
Labour's Legacy
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
Labour's Legacy
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
What has the labour government done for the working man (me)?
Well, I pay more tax than I ever did. I have seen the dropping of values, standards and service levels from all government bodies. I see more and more long-term unemployed getting more and more money through different mechanisms. I see whole sections of society abandoned and left to rot in their own hell, with public money thrown at them from a limitless pot. I see rising crime and the threat of crime and more importantly significantly more and more red tape that prevent the UK, business and people from actually doing anything.
And they have left us with the highest budget deficit we have ever seen. And they still say they are the best for the nation? Phah.
Well, I pay more tax than I ever did. I have seen the dropping of values, standards and service levels from all government bodies. I see more and more long-term unemployed getting more and more money through different mechanisms. I see whole sections of society abandoned and left to rot in their own hell, with public money thrown at them from a limitless pot. I see rising crime and the threat of crime and more importantly significantly more and more red tape that prevent the UK, business and people from actually doing anything.
And they have left us with the highest budget deficit we have ever seen. And they still say they are the best for the nation? Phah.
theaxe said:
This is posted a lot but it's a gem from William Hague
Labour's Legacy
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
fLabour's Legacy
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
k. Me. That's all I can say.How on earth Winky didn't shoot himself in the head years ago is a mystery to anyone with a soul.
Alastair Campbell truly is a
.I agree, if i was living in a council house and on benefits then i would vote labour.
but as a working man i think the benefit + immigration systems is a joke.
i know various people claiming job seakers but work, i know various people claiming to be homeless claiming housing benefit but living at the mums ( diff surname a now married again )
its far far too easy and i think DC speach about it should be what can i offer rather what do i get and what can i do rather what am i owed.
J
but as a working man i think the benefit + immigration systems is a joke.
i know various people claiming job seakers but work, i know various people claiming to be homeless claiming housing benefit but living at the mums ( diff surname a now married again )
its far far too easy and i think DC speach about it should be what can i offer rather what do i get and what can i do rather what am i owed.
J
Jayzee said:
It's strange to think that they have just ficked off and left a huge mess with no accountabiity.
If it were you or I, we would be in the deepest of st... even if we walked away from it.
I have a feeling i would be unemployed for the rest of my life if i had the track record of your average MP, yet they will have fat pensions and directorships and consultancy deals coming out of their arses when they decide they don't want to be politicians any more..If it were you or I, we would be in the deepest of s
t... even if we walked away from it.It must be nice to be in that club!
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