New VAT rate from the ConLib coalition
New VAT rate from the ConLib coalition
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Ozzie Osmond

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21,189 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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ConLib are scrapping Brown's proposed increase in National Insurance and pledging to pay down the national debt, so the money's got to come from somewhere.

Although there are many different taxes only a few of them raise BIG money, such as corporation tax, income tax and VAT. What are your bets for the new VAT package and reasoning?

20% mainstream rate (up from 17.5%) - only the spenders pay - moving towards other EU countries
10% domestic energy rate (up from 5%) - encouraging efficient use - clean and green approach
5% rate on food, childrens clothes etc (new tax) - reduce Tesco profits - moving towards EU

TankRizzo

8,024 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I would be VERY surprised if VAT goes on food and kiddie clothes. I think they'll try everything before introducing that.

Eric Mc

125,717 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I don't see any changes to the items assigned Zero Rate VAT. I do see the VAT rate rising to around 20%.

By the way, there are MANY food items which are subject to 17.5% VAT.

JRM

2,065 posts

262 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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It was the unspoken certainty of any government, VAT going to 20% like most of mainland Europe

Pesty

42,655 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I'm sure VAT will go up and every other Tax/stealth tax and new taxes will be invented but may I ask a stupid question.

VAT was reduced in order to help the economy and get people out buying stuff. Won't increasing VAT have the opposite effect, and If so is that not to be avoided in a strugling economy?


DangerousMike

11,327 posts

222 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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stay away from the jaffa cakes, osbourne.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Pesty said:
I'm sure VAT will go up and every other Tax/stealth tax and new taxes will be invented but may I ask a stupid question.

VAT was reduced in order to help the economy and get people out buying stuff. Won't increasing VAT have the opposite effect, and If so is that not to be avoided in a strugling economy?
very good observation....

dandarez

14,023 posts

313 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Exactly what putting it back up to 17.5% has done!

The logic eh?

20%... up goes fuel as well!

Anyhow, let's not give them ideas how we think. They might be reading these threads...

Talking of reading...
Keep your bl**dy vat of my books!!

Just remember Mr Osborne, another election could be close.

You want my vote... don't you?

Ozzie Osmond

Original Poster:

21,189 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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JRM said:
It was the unspoken certainty of any government, VAT going to 20% like most of mainland Europe
...glad to hear someone was listening!

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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dandarez said:
Just remember Mr Osborne, another election could be close.

You want my vote... don't you?
The country is in chronic debt, whether we like it or not, someone has to tackle this. At some point, we, the public are going to have to repay it. The longer we wait, the worse the problem will be.

This can never be repeated enough:

The Labour Party left office with public borrowing growing by £460m PER DAY.

Eric Mc

125,717 posts

295 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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Pesty said:
I'm sure VAT will go up and every other Tax/stealth tax and new taxes will be invented but may I ask a stupid question.

VAT was reduced in order to help the economy and get people out buying stuff. Won't increasing VAT have the opposite effect, and If so is that not to be avoided in a strugling economy?
The reduction in VAT had no noticeable beneficial effect as in many cases, the expected price reductions were not passed on to the consumer.