Can a Company Make You Have a Political View.
Can a Company Make You Have a Political View.
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wildcat45

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8,160 posts

219 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Simple really. Green politics. If you work for a company that buys into green save the planet commitments and you don't buy into it, can they make you get involved.

I've a friend who'se firm has made being green a demonstrable achievement on their HR yearly staff review. You know the type of thing where your perfomence is minitors, goals set.

Apparently there is a section where you make a commitment to go green.

My Friend has a V8 Range Rover, M5 Beemer, and another car. He's probably the most un-green person I know.

Thats his right.

If he refuses to sign up to the green initiative, it will go on his employment record.

What does he do?

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Fail at going green.

He can "commit" to going green at work. They can set goals for him at work.

His private life is his own. A short visit with an employment law specialist will arm him with enough to terrify HR and any little Hitlers with.

You can fire people if you've got good reason. Their private life isn't one so long as it doesn't affect his work performance.

Jasandjules

72,614 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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You are free to hold whatever beliefs you want. And what you do in your private life is no business of your employer (in the main, there are of course exceptions).

But he might want to find another job.

Muzzer

3,814 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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They can ask him to sign up to a green initiative in relation to work matters.

But that green initiative should not apply to personal choices outside the work place so shouldn't affect him or his V8 Range Rover.

Lickasaurus Rex

3,097 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Recycle some papers, start a compost bin for food scraps and get a pretty straight through exhaust fitted to the V8. A real comedy one.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Don said:
Fail at going green.

He can "commit" to going green at work. They can set goals for him at work.

His private life is his own. A short visit with an employment law specialist will arm him with enough to terrify HR and any little Hitlers with.

You can fire people if you've got good reason. Their private life isn't one so long as it doesn't affect his work performance.
AFAIK, some firms / organisations have a disrepute clause in their employment contracts.

JB!

5,255 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Lickasaurus Rex said:
Recycle some papers, start a compost bin for food scraps and get a pretty straight through exhaust fitted to the V8. A real comedy one.
^this.

HiRich

3,337 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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There is an ongoing (I believe) unfair dismissal case featuring a rabid greenie who worked for a developer. It hit the headlines last year when elements of it reached court. It would be relevant to his position.
Alternatively, start a wormery in the office - a tenner will buy a starter kit.

Yelly

306 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Going Green might be a workplace accreditation requirment; might be an idea to see what the reasoning behind it is. It would only affect workplace issues; I don't think that would extend to how your friend gets to work, which is none of their business and could be discriminatory (forcing him to use public transport when he lives in the countryside, for instance).

cs02rm0

13,966 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Get him to turn his company phone off whenever he leaves the office. hehe

rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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cs02rm0 said:
Get him to turn his company phone off whenever he leaves the office. hehe
Surely you should just turn it off 24/7 to be fully green?

Nimbus

1,176 posts

258 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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is he simple ? or is this his first job in a large company ?

he just signs the bit of paper and ignores it.. what are they going to do ?

Then at his annual review, just come up with some appropriate BS to tick the boxes, just like he does for all the other 'objectives' in his review rolleyes

sometimes its not worth fighting these idiots, its easier to agree with them, and then do nothing...

alternativly, he can be an argumentative arse to them, and finding himself being marked down as having the wrong 'attitude'.



cs02rm0

13,966 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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rypt said:
cs02rm0 said:
Get him to turn his company phone off whenever he leaves the office. hehe
Surely you should just turn it off 24/7 to be fully green?
Ah, yes, but he needs to hold something back for next year's review!

rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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cs02rm0 said:
rypt said:
cs02rm0 said:
Get him to turn his company phone off whenever he leaves the office. hehe
Surely you should just turn it off 24/7 to be fully green?
Ah, yes, but he needs to hold something back for next year's review!
Turning the computer off permanently is for next year

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Don said:
Fail at going green.

He can "commit" to going green at work. They can set goals for him at work.

His private life is his own. A short visit with an employment law specialist will arm him with enough to terrify HR and any little Hitlers with.

You can fire people if you've got good reason. Their private life isn't one so long as it doesn't affect his work performance.
AFAIK, some firms / organisations have a disrepute clause in their employment contracts.
If they try a "disrepute" clause with respect to a perfectly ordinary vehicle choice I'd lay good money on an unfair dismissal claim working. It's not something, as an employer, I'd try.

It's not quite like asking your lesbian secretary if you can watch but it's still pretty bad.

rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Don said:
It's not quite like asking your lesbian secretary if you can watch but it's still pretty bad.
Hang on, hang on!
You mean I CANT ask that?

Damn, there goes my plan frown

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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rypt said:
Hang on, hang on!
You mean I CANT ask that?
No. Sorry. Bummer, huh? Harassment of the sexual kind is a no no.

rypt said:
Damn, there goes my plan frown

rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Don said:
rypt said:
Hang on, hang on!
You mean I CANT ask that?
No. Sorry. Bummer, huh? Harassment of the sexual kind is a no no.

rypt said:
Damn, there goes my plan frown
You aren't harassing (repeatedly asking / forcing etc), you're just asking :/

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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rypt said:
You aren't harassing (repeatedly asking / forcing etc), you're just asking :/
roflrofl

Yes, officer, I was only asking her if she'd like to be taken up the OXO Tower. Only asking. laugh

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Nimbus said:
is he simple ? or is this his first job in a large company ?
Quite.
Besides, what's wrong with being green so long as you do not adhere to the MMGW faith? It's a shame that the above mentioned gives being environmentally consciousness a bad name.