Mandelson and Adonis Resign From Labour Front Bench
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8695850.stm
BBC said:
Lords Mandelson and Adonis have left the shadow cabinet because it is too difficult to do the lead opposition job in the House of Lords, says Labour.
MPs Pat McFadden and Sadiq Khan become shadow business secretary and shadow transport secretary instead.
On the face of it, their reasons for resignation seem reasonable, although being in the Lords never seemed to hinder them much in government. Its just that I can't imagine Mandelson doing anything out of principle. At all. Ever. For the past two decades there's always been an angle. So whats he up to now? Is it just me that thinks like this?MPs Pat McFadden and Sadiq Khan become shadow business secretary and shadow transport secretary instead.
No power = No incentive 
My guess is that mandys found another trough to stick his snout into, think we will soon hear an announcement of his appointment to either a staggeringly well paid, unelected position with the EUSSR, or as an adviser / consultant / director to an evil corporation.
My guess is that mandys found another trough to stick his snout into, think we will soon hear an announcement of his appointment to either a staggeringly well paid, unelected position with the EUSSR, or as an adviser / consultant / director to an evil corporation.
AndrewW-G said:
No power = No incentive
My guess is that mandys found another trough to stick his snout into, think we will soon hear an announcement of his appointment to either a staggeringly well paid, unelected position with the EUSSR, or as an adviser / consultant / director to an evil corporation.
Or in the Tory cabinet My guess is that mandys found another trough to stick his snout into, think we will soon hear an announcement of his appointment to either a staggeringly well paid, unelected position with the EUSSR, or as an adviser / consultant / director to an evil corporation.
XJ40 said:
Who needs Mandelson when they could have that racist hypocrite Diane Abbot as the next leader.
EFA - I could not believe that she was able to say on TV that all the men in the Labour party look the same to her.... Can you imagine if a white person had said that about black people !?!?Not to mention her socialist ideals stretching not quite far enough to put her kids through the same schools as the workers, hers had to go to private education, eh comrade?
Mazda Baiter said:
Well, Labour are well and truely f
ked now.
Mandelson was always the brains of the outfit, Campbell was the voice. How long before Campbell rules himself out again?
Thing is though, they could still be pulling strings from behind the scenes. Surely much easier without a front bench appointment to pretend to care about?ked now.Mandelson was always the brains of the outfit, Campbell was the voice. How long before Campbell rules himself out again?
It was interesting to see that, when Labour were making their token effort at negotiating with the Lib Dems, three out of the negotiating team of four were unelected: Mandelson, Adonis and Campbell - who, officially at least, isn't even a politician. Only Balls was an MP. A wonderful insight into where the power lies (or lay) in that party.
Mandy craves power and the trappings of office - always remember that.
Now the Labour party have been kicked out he has no further use for them, so the question is where can he next get power and trappings of office from? My bet is he has got an angle on another top EU job, probably that held be Lady Ashton. She's being slated from every corner, although a Labour person he has never offered her any support, and as it seems he always wanted to emulate his gand daddy as Foreign Secretary this would be hugely appealing to him. In fact, given the cedance of powers to the EU he would proably have as much power over the UK as Hague anyway!
Now the Labour party have been kicked out he has no further use for them, so the question is where can he next get power and trappings of office from? My bet is he has got an angle on another top EU job, probably that held be Lady Ashton. She's being slated from every corner, although a Labour person he has never offered her any support, and as it seems he always wanted to emulate his gand daddy as Foreign Secretary this would be hugely appealing to him. In fact, given the cedance of powers to the EU he would proably have as much power over the UK as Hague anyway!
BruceV8 said:
Mazda Baiter said:
Well, Labour are well and truely fked now.
Mandelson was always the brains of the outfit, Campbell was the voice. How long before Campbell rules himself out again?
Thing is though, they could still be pulling strings from behind the scenes. Surely much easier without a front bench appointment to pretend to care about?ked now.Mandelson was always the brains of the outfit, Campbell was the voice. How long before Campbell rules himself out again?
It was interesting to see that, when Labour were making their token effort at negotiating with the Lib Dems, three out of the negotiating team of four were unelected: Mandelson, Adonis and Campbell - who, officially at least, isn't even a politician. Only Balls was an MP. A wonderful insight into where the power lies (or lay) in that party.
I love the way people potray Mandelson as some kind of dangerous political power broker. Do they forget he's actually just a blunderer looking to make a quick buck? He was thrown out of position twice from Labour and his dealings as EU trade minister will one day come under scrutiny I'm sure.
Other than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
Other than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
Zod said:
Mandelson was never going to stick around to do the difficult job of opposition. He'll go off and find ways to make lots more secret money with his friends and then, if he thinks Labour have a sniff at power at the next election, he'll reappear alongside Labour's leader.
I'm absolutely with you on that one. Real snake in the grass.10 Pence Short said:
I love the way people potray Mandelson as some kind of dangerous political power broker. Do they forget he's actually just a blunderer looking to make a quick buck? He was thrown out of position twice from Labour and his dealings as EU trade minister will one day come under scrutiny I'm sure.
Other than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
Thank god somebody said it, every time something happens it becomes a 'Mandy's behind this' moment as if the guy is some kind of evil genius, if he was that good Labour would still be fOther than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
king us over right now.The real Apache said:
10 Pence Short said:
I love the way people potray Mandelson as some kind of dangerous political power broker. Do they forget he's actually just a blunderer looking to make a quick buck? He was thrown out of position twice from Labour and his dealings as EU trade minister will one day come under scrutiny I'm sure.
Other than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
Thank god somebody said it, every time something happens it becomes a 'Mandy's behind this' moment as if the guy is some kind of evil genius, if he was that good Labour would still be fOther than that all I see him as is the unnofficial Labour Party muscle for hire, willing to whatever his leader tells him. I'd say people like Alistair Campbell and Charlie Wheeler are far more threatening and destructive political animals than Madelson will ever be.
king us over right now.The guy's just a chancer and an opportunist.
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