Labour Leadership

[Stevenj214]

So far, I've heard some stuff from Ed Balls and Diane Abbot.

Ed couldn't string a coherent sentence together in his interview and Diane, whilst more eloquent, is banging on about being fair to women.

Putting aside PH conservative leanings, are any of the Labour Leadership candidates worthy??

[Jasandjules]

Not really. None of them seem to have the brains and charisma to succeed in ruling the country. Unfortunately most appear to have the kind of smug face that I wouldn't tire of hitting with a baseball bat..

[Fittster]

Miliband, Cameron and Clegg all look pretty interchangeable to me.

Ideology and experience don't appear to be requirements any more.

[The Black Flash]

Fittster said:

Ideology and experience don't appear to be requirements any more.

This. 'tis a sad state of affairs.
As for odious little twerps like Burnham. Got where he is by doing exactly what he's told and nothing else, and now is seen as a potential leader? Pathetic.

But then, whatever will keep them out of power is fine by me.

[5unny]

As we've just seen almost 9 million people voted for Gordon Brown so I don't think the electorate have very high standards.

You could place a monkey as head of the Labour party and their core voters would still come out for them.

Brown, Milliband, Balls...I don't think it matters a great deal.

[XJ40]

I think David Milliband will get the nod, he seems to handle himself quite well and is probably the most electable of the bunch. He's not hugely experienced by then neither is Cleggeron and he's currently running the country.

[AndrewW-G]

5unny said:

You could place a monkey as head of the Labour party and their core voters would still come out for them.

The perfect example of which is our very own Racistdud007. In spite of being kicked out of the labour party the week before the election amid tales of perverted, stalker’ish, dishonest and downright mental behaviour. Our beloved, unemployed, parental basement dweller Cowan, still managed to get almost four and a half thousand votes!

[MX7]

In '97 the cabinet had Cook, Straw, Mowlam, Dewar and, of course, Blair.

I can't see anyone that comes close to any of them in Labour at the moment.

[Fittster]

MX7 said:

In '97 the cabinet had Cook, Straw, Mowlam, Dewar and, of course, Blair.

I can't see anyone that comes close to any of them in Labour at the moment.

In fairness are today's conservatives better than:

"Chancellor of the Exchequer and Second Lord of the Treasury: Norman Lamont (1990-93), Kenneth Clarke (1993-97)
Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State: Michael Heseltine (1995-97)
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs: Douglas Hurd (1989-95), Malcolm Rifkind (1995-97)
Secretary of State for the Home Department: Kenneth Baker (1990-92), Kenneth Clarke (1992-93), Michael Howard (1993-97)"

Unfortunately with the current system you have to chuck someone into a job and see if they sink or swim.

[colonel c]

They might have to go through one or two leaders before they become electable again. The Tories tried out the Yorkshire man, the quiet man, & the Dark Prince before settling on a Tony Blair remake.

[MX7]

Fittster said:

MX7 said:

In '97 the cabinet had Cook, Straw, Mowlam, Dewar and, of course, Blair.

I can't see anyone that comes close to any of them in Labour at the moment.

In fairness are today's conservatives better than:

"Chancellor of the Exchequer and Second Lord of the Treasury: Norman Lamont (1990-93), Kenneth Clarke (1993-97)
Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State: Michael Heseltine (1995-97)
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs: Douglas Hurd (1989-95), Malcolm Rifkind (1995-97)
Secretary of State for the Home Department: Kenneth Baker (1990-92), Kenneth Clarke (1992-93), Michael Howard (1993-97)"

Unfortunately with the current system you have to chuck someone into a job and see if they sink or swim.

Hague, IDS, Clarke. Perhaps not as good as '97, but they are a league above the Labour contenders.

[sa_20v]

If a Miliband ever becomes Prime-minister, Gordon Brown's reign will be remembered as the 'good old days'. Both share Marxist leanings (no surprise given their father - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Miliband ), a wealth of arrogance and a lust for State control and conformity.

Edited by sa_20v on Monday 24th May 14:20

[Fittster]

sa_20v said:

If a Miliband ever becomes Prime-minister, Gordon Brown's reign will be remembered as the 'good old days'. Both share Marxist leanings (no surprise given their father - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Miliband), a wealth of arrogance and a lust for State control and conformity.

Linky doesn't work.

[sa_20v]

Fittster said:

sa_20v said:

If a Miliband ever becomes Prime-minister, Gordon Brown's reign will be remembered as the 'good old days'. Both share Marxist leanings (no surprise given their father - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Miliband), a wealth of arrogance and a lust for State control and conformity.

Linky doesn't work.

Fixed.