Youngest round the world sailor missing in storm
Youngest round the world sailor missing in storm
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Ayahuasca

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27,584 posts

309 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and...


There is something of a air of inevitability over this.


I hope she is alive and just comms are out.


For those in peril, and all that..

Ayahuasca

Original Poster:

27,584 posts

309 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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As you were, she's been found!


Phew.

Jasandjules

72,616 posts

259 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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that didn't take long...

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

202 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

239 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Bing o said:
that didn't take long...
2 minutes in fact

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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itsnotarace said:
Bing o said:
that didn't take long...
2 minutes in fact
Ed zachery.

okgo

42,215 posts

228 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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fking kids wasting lifeboats time and resources.


collateral

7,238 posts

248 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it

Dunk76

4,350 posts

244 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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collateral said:
SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it
No less irresponsible than Andrew McAuley trying to Kayak across the Tasman Sea

Wing Commander

2,220 posts

262 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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okgo said:
fking kids wasting lifeboats time and resources.
As opposed to fking adults wasting lifeboats' time and resources??

I am pretty sure that she has the skill to do it, otherwise all the people she is connected with (friends, family, sponsors, other sailors etc) would not have let her do it.

Generally speaking, age does not have a direct link to ability on the water. I was sailing my own boats on the water at 10, safely. I had a list of quals the length of my arm by the time I was 15/16 etc. I have seen countless 40 year old + morons spunk some excess cash on powerboats and genuinely put other lives in danger.

Ahh, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant - not even sure if your comment was or wasn't tongue-in-cheek!

Wing Commander

2,220 posts

262 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Dunk76 said:
collateral said:
SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it
No less irresponsible than Andrew McAuley trying to Kayak across the Tasman Sea
Or getting into an F1 car and bombing around a racetrack. It carries danger, yes. So do lots of things. If she has the skill to do these things, then I for one, applaud her.

Would you guys all suggest that she was wrapped up in cotton wool, at home playing Xbox??

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

202 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Wing Commander said:
okgo said:
fking kids wasting lifeboats time and resources.
As opposed to fking adults wasting lifeboats' time and resources??

I am pretty sure that she has the skill to do it, otherwise all the people she is connected with (friends, family, sponsors, other sailors etc) would not have let her do it.

Generally speaking, age does not have a direct link to ability on the water. I was sailing my own boats on the water at 10, safely. I had a list of quals the length of my arm by the time I was 15/16 etc. I have seen countless 40 year old + morons spunk some excess cash on powerboats and genuinely put other lives in danger.

Ahh, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant - not even sure if your comment was or wasn't tongue-in-cheek!
Sure because no Parents rich enough to buy their daughter a boat would be irresponsible and compromise safety for the lure of fame and celebrity?

Never underestimate the power of the 'fame we' virus.

Dunk76

4,350 posts

244 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Wing Commander said:
Dunk76 said:
collateral said:
SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it
No less irresponsible than Andrew McAuley trying to Kayak across the Tasman Sea
Or getting into an F1 car and bombing around a racetrack. It carries danger, yes. So do lots of things. If she has the skill to do these things, then I for one, applaud her.

Would you guys all suggest that she was wrapped up in cotton wool, at home playing Xbox??
Not at all - I was pointing out that in the great scheme of things it wasn't that irresponsible

Indeed, I view McAuley's ill-prepared attempt as recklessly irresponsible - he was weeping 40 metres from the shore; hardly the action of someone mentally steeled to face what lay ahead, and that device on the back of his Kayak was such a bodge it's a wonder he managed to right it the first time it rolled

tank slapper

7,949 posts

313 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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article said:
Teenage sailor Abby Sunderland, 16, has been located in the Indian Ocean, near to the Kerguelen Islands, after activating her EPIRB yesterday. She was part-way through an attempt to become the youngest person to sail around the world.

Abby had reported 60-knot winds and was knocked down repeatedly in her Open 40, Wild Eyes, before her parents, in California, lost contact with her. Australian SAR teams located the yacht, which was dismasted, from a chartered Qantas passenger jet, and a French fishing boat has been diverted to her position.

On her blog Abby's parents described what happened: "We were helping her troubleshoot her engine that she was trying to start to charge her systems. Satellite phone reception was patchy. She was able to get the water out of the engine and start her up. We were waiting to hear back from her when American Search & Rescue authorities called to report having received a signal from her emergency beacon (EPIRB). We initially thought that the signal was sent automatically from her water-activated EPIRB and that it had been activated during one of her knockdowns. As we pulled the paperwork from her EPIRB registration, we learned that the signal had come from her manually activated EPIRB.

We were referred to Australian Search & Rescue and while we were on the phone with them another signal came in from her handheld PLB (Personal Locator Beacon). Her water-activated EPIRB has not been activated so we are hopeful that the boat is still upright"

The fishing boat is around 24 hours away. "Where they will take her or how long it will take we don't know", her team said.
Link.

Wing Commander

2,220 posts

262 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Dunk76 said:
Wing Commander said:
Dunk76 said:
collateral said:
SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it
No less irresponsible than Andrew McAuley trying to Kayak across the Tasman Sea
Or getting into an F1 car and bombing around a racetrack. It carries danger, yes. So do lots of things. If she has the skill to do these things, then I for one, applaud her.

Would you guys all suggest that she was wrapped up in cotton wool, at home playing Xbox??
Not at all - I was pointing out that in the great scheme of things it wasn't that irresponsible

Indeed, I view McAuley's ill-prepared attempt as recklessly irresponsible - he was weeping 40 metres from the shore; hardly the action of someone mentally steeled to face what lay ahead, and that device on the back of his Kayak was such a bodge it's a wonder he managed to right it the first time it rolled
Oops! Sorry! That will teach me for skim reading!

Wing Commander

2,220 posts

262 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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SmoothRB said:
Wing Commander said:
okgo said:
fking kids wasting lifeboats time and resources.
As opposed to fking adults wasting lifeboats' time and resources??

I am pretty sure that she has the skill to do it, otherwise all the people she is connected with (friends, family, sponsors, other sailors etc) would not have let her do it.

Generally speaking, age does not have a direct link to ability on the water. I was sailing my own boats on the water at 10, safely. I had a list of quals the length of my arm by the time I was 15/16 etc. I have seen countless 40 year old + morons spunk some excess cash on powerboats and genuinely put other lives in danger.

Ahh, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant - not even sure if your comment was or wasn't tongue-in-cheek!
Sure because no Parents rich enough to buy their daughter a boat would be irresponsible and compromise safety for the lure of fame and celebrity?

Never underestimate the power of the 'fame we' virus.
From reading the wiki about her/the boat, it does not sound as if she was exactly forced to do it. Just following in the footsteps of father and older brother, from a very nautical family. I would argue she would have been up to the job. The boat was demasted. This can happen to any sailor on any boat (with a mast, obviously!)

collateral

7,238 posts

248 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Dunk76 said:
collateral said:
SmoothRB said:
Jasandjules said:
Good news.

I cannot imagine what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but I certainly respect their courage.
I think it is a cool thing to do but the 'race to the bottom' of becoming the youngest ever seems to me a bit pointless and irresponsible. It won't end well if younger and younger children keep doing this...even if (apparently) is because the 'just want to' and nothing to do w/ parental ambition and greed.

Who pays for the A330 that was chartered to find her and the ship to rescue her BTW?
Glad she has been found safe, but I completely agree wrt the irresponsibility of it
No less irresponsible than Andrew McAuley trying to Kayak across the Tasman Sea
I'm not familiar with this kayaking fellow.

Ayahuasca

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27,584 posts

309 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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The sailor's age is not generally an important factor in a yacht's masts falling down. The force of the water when the boat is rolled upside down is generally considered a more important factor.

singlecoil

35,834 posts

276 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
The sailor's age is not generally an important factor in a yacht's masts falling down. The force of the water when the boat is rolled upside down is generally considered a more important factor.
So why is the sailor's age such a big deal as far as the record attempt goes? If their age doesn't matter to their sailing ability why should it matter at all?