Government spends £17,500 on wine
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10357852.stm
More than £17,500 has been spent topping up the government wine cellar since the election, it has emerged.
It brings the total value of fine wine stored for VIP functions to £864,000, a Commons answer by Foreign Office minister Henry Bellingham revealed.
Labour's Tom Watson said the Tory-Lib Dem coalition should sell the wine to boost the public finances, quoting Tory slogan "we're all in this together".
The government says it buys wine young to ensure the best value for taxpayers.
How about the t
ts pay for it themselves!
More than £17,500 has been spent topping up the government wine cellar since the election, it has emerged.
It brings the total value of fine wine stored for VIP functions to £864,000, a Commons answer by Foreign Office minister Henry Bellingham revealed.
Labour's Tom Watson said the Tory-Lib Dem coalition should sell the wine to boost the public finances, quoting Tory slogan "we're all in this together".
The government says it buys wine young to ensure the best value for taxpayers.
How about the t
ts pay for it themselves!"Labour's Tom Watson said the Tory-Lib Dem coalition should sell the wine to boost the public finances"
Yet Labour had £800,000+ of wine....
Silly story, and I hope that the press stop examining every expenditure in this way. I'm sure that there are far more important issues to focus on.
Yet Labour had £800,000+ of wine....
Silly story, and I hope that the press stop examining every expenditure in this way. I'm sure that there are far more important issues to focus on.
Randy Winkman said:
And turn one good thing we have in the the UK into s**t?
Give it a rest. It is st. Nothing they produce wouldn't happen anyway, yet we're forced to pay for propaganda. Privatise it. I can tolerate Murdoch's bias by simply not paying for it. The BBC should be the same.grumbledoak said:
Randy Winkman said:
And turn one good thing we have in the the UK into s**t?
Give it a rest. It is st. Nothing they produce wouldn't happen anyway, yet we're forced to pay for propaganda. Privatise it. I can tolerate Murdoch's bias by simply not paying for it. The BBC should be the same.The sky at night
Daily Politics
This Week
Hammond meets Moss
Countryfile
Later with Jools Holland
Wonders of the Solar system
The entire of BBC Four.
I am happy to pay for the BBC, it is cheap.
If we sold the BBC off, the TV licence fee would remain. Then you will pay for nothing.
Recent art programmes about Picasso, Warhol and others, a series about Nigeria, one about maps, another called "The Story of Science", the one about Indian/African railways, the solar system series, "Rude Britannia", "Springwatch" (I know that gets a bit silly sometimes), "I'm in a Rock and Roll Band", BBC Radio etc etc etc. I know exactly why some people resent paying for it, but I'd be lost without it.
FFS! Other news media than the BBC reported the same story.
The question should be 'do the government actually £800,000 worth of plonk in it's cellar. And if do they need to stock ultra expensive wines. Are we the tax payers getting a good deal or are or ministers and civil servants pissing it up at our expense.
The question should be 'do the government actually £800,000 worth of plonk in it's cellar. And if do they need to stock ultra expensive wines. Are we the tax payers getting a good deal or are or ministers and civil servants pissing it up at our expense.
colonel c said:
FFS! Other news media than the BBC reported the same story.
The question should be 'do the government actually £800,000 worth of plonk in it's cellar. And if do they need to stock ultra expensive wines. Are we the tax payers getting a good deal or are or ministers and civil servants pissing it up at our expense.
Yes, because it is actually good value. If you have the French arriving you do not head down the the offey. A £50 bottle is a £100 bottle if four years - less storage it makes financial sense.The question should be 'do the government actually £800,000 worth of plonk in it's cellar. And if do they need to stock ultra expensive wines. Are we the tax payers getting a good deal or are or ministers and civil servants pissing it up at our expense.
I bet they also have £100k worth of toilet paper in whitehall. Minister Wipes Ar$e - Wail shocka.
Randy Winkman said:
Recent art programmes about Picasso, Warhol and others, a series about Nigeria, one about maps, another called "The Story of Science", the one about Indian/African railways, the solar system series, "Rude Britannia", "Springwatch" (I know that gets a bit silly sometimes), "I'm in a Rock and Roll Band", BBC Radio etc etc etc. I know exactly why some people resent paying for it, but I'd be lost without it.
+ their wildlife documentaries are worth the fee alone.I take it this is the same Labour's Tom Watson
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-exp...
That figures then....now where's that wker smilie.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-exp...
That figures then....now where's that w
ker smilie.HOGEPH said:
It brings the total value of fine wine stored for VIP functions to £864,000, a Commons answer by Foreign Office minister Henry Bellingham revealed.
Did you not read this bit? VIP functions, it's not like the MPs are all sat around in cabinet meetings going through barrels of wine...
Next week, Govt have spent money on canapes.
Rusty Arches said:
Randy Winkman said:
Recent art programmes about Picasso, Warhol and others, a series about Nigeria, one about maps, another called "The Story of Science", the one about Indian/African railways, the solar system series, "Rude Britannia", "Springwatch" (I know that gets a bit silly sometimes), "I'm in a Rock and Roll Band", BBC Radio etc etc etc. I know exactly why some people resent paying for it, but I'd be lost without it.
+ their wildlife documentaries are worth the fee alone.Having tried to wrestle with ITV's shambolic website over the past week or so, give me the Beeb any day.
Rusty Arches said:
Randy Winkman said:
Recent art programmes about Picasso, Warhol and others, a series about Nigeria, one about maps, another called "The Story of Science", the one about Indian/African railways, the solar system series, "Rude Britannia", "Springwatch" (I know that gets a bit silly sometimes), "I'm in a Rock and Roll Band", BBC Radio etc etc etc. I know exactly why some people resent paying for it, but I'd be lost without it.
+ their wildlife documentaries are worth the fee alone.The BBC is a world class TV and BBC production vehicle. If you dont wish to pay for it then go abroad and see what you get as a comparison.
The impact of advertising when viewing foreign television is terrible, quite simply. People mention American tv as very good. Well take those shows and watch a few adverts after the opening credits roll, 2 before the end and one before the final credits roll. Yes the shows may be well made but the ad's will drive you insane.
You watch Sky and all you see is lots of finance ads and weight loss plans - well there you go. Thats the BBC without funding.
Those who complain about paying for it should have a good think about what they would get if it wasnt for the funding.
The impact of advertising when viewing foreign television is terrible, quite simply. People mention American tv as very good. Well take those shows and watch a few adverts after the opening credits roll, 2 before the end and one before the final credits roll. Yes the shows may be well made but the ad's will drive you insane.
You watch Sky and all you see is lots of finance ads and weight loss plans - well there you go. Thats the BBC without funding.
Those who complain about paying for it should have a good think about what they would get if it wasnt for the funding.
As ever on PH, a thread has degenerated into a BBC Bashing affair - when the original posting had nothing to do with the BBC.
I am more concerned with the Godawful standard of news reporting in many of our newspapers - and not just the tabloids.
The Daily Mail is the obvious source for a lot of inane and downright mischevious reporting but even "old reliables" such as the Daily Telegraph and The Times have plenty of examples of shoddy and poorly researched journalism.
I am more concerned with the Godawful standard of news reporting in many of our newspapers - and not just the tabloids.
The Daily Mail is the obvious source for a lot of inane and downright mischevious reporting but even "old reliables" such as the Daily Telegraph and The Times have plenty of examples of shoddy and poorly researched journalism.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 22 June 08:50
I deal/work with the BBC every week and for long periods daily and the profligacy would make you all cry.
If the BBC were run correctly [as a business, but still acting as a full public service] the licence fee would be around £45.
I'll give you an example, when covering a certain well known event we filmed it for direct broadcast in parallel to the BBC, same quality, same everything, just broadcast to another country, we did this with 10 people directly and 3 people for the language change, it was autonomous from us, a true OB unit. The BBC covered exactly the same event with the same amount of coverage, they had 53 people [inc. interviewers] and was not autonomous in the true sense as there were another 8-10 back at BH.
13 versus 60+
This is not an isolated example, it happens every day.
BBC radio is the only half-decent VFM service, TV is a huge spuffer of our money.
If the BBC were run correctly [as a business, but still acting as a full public service] the licence fee would be around £45.
I'll give you an example, when covering a certain well known event we filmed it for direct broadcast in parallel to the BBC, same quality, same everything, just broadcast to another country, we did this with 10 people directly and 3 people for the language change, it was autonomous from us, a true OB unit. The BBC covered exactly the same event with the same amount of coverage, they had 53 people [inc. interviewers] and was not autonomous in the true sense as there were another 8-10 back at BH.
13 versus 60+
This is not an isolated example, it happens every day.
BBC radio is the only half-decent VFM service, TV is a huge spuffer of our money.
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