In defiance of the 25% Govt cuts...
In defiance of the 25% Govt cuts...
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F i F

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48,837 posts

281 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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... the money we send to Brussels is also going to be cut by?

Well it's... errr... going to go up, actually. 25% up, and more.

Even after taking into account the money that the EU graciously gives back to us (which is often misspent), the amount we pour into Brussels is going to grow from £6.4bn last year, to £8.3bn this year and then goes on to peak at an eye-watering £10.3bn in 2014-15.



More here

Douglas Murray has a moan about Brussels hotel bill

No matter how good a job the coaltion Lib-cons are doing in trying to get a grip of the Labour financial mess one has to say...

Warned you! Yep, we really did warn you about voting for CMD.

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
Warned you! Yep, we really did warn you about voting for CMD.
Could be worse, we could have voted for Winky, and we wouldn't even start trying to cut any budgets for another 5 years, ensuring that we really will be well and truly stuffed.

£25m for a Stonehenge souvenir shop my arse.

F i F

Original Poster:

48,837 posts

281 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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tinman0 said:
F i F said:
Warned you! Yep, we really did warn you about voting for CMD.
Could be worse, we could have voted for Winky, and we wouldn't even start trying to cut any budgets for another 5 years, ensuring that we really will be well and truly stuffed.

£25m for a Stonehenge souvenir shop my arse.
Yep I know, beggars belief doesn't it.

Also 75% of all Govt websites to be scrapped apparently.

600 websites to be closed saving £100 million, probably including the Potato Marketing council lovechips.co.uk

Remaining websites to be reviewed to see if resources etc can all be shared and halve the costs.

Apparently the worst website costs £11.78 per visit.





edited; memo to self, proof read before clicking submit you muppet.

Edited by F i F on Friday 25th June 12:24

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
Also 75% of all Govt websites to be scrapped apparently.
I must say I'm enjoying television again since the election now that all the govt propaganda ads have gone.

rypt

2,548 posts

220 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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OnTheOverrun said:
F i F said:
Also 75% of all Govt websites to be scrapped apparently.
I must say I'm enjoying television again since the election now that all the govt propaganda ads have gone.
I dunno, BBC are still there ... though I guess they are now the opposition propaganda ads

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
600 websites to be closed saving £100 million, probably including the Potato Marketing council lovechips.co.uk
It's not the real world is it? I've just looked at lovechips.co.uk (i never knew it even existed until you mentioned it) - and what a waste.

It really is a strange parallel world these people live in. And how would you ever know if that website was successful or not in its aims?? There's even a Facebook page with a whole 1,400 members. I struggle each year to make my marketing budget, but I've no doubt they have a budget for that website that would make my eyes water frankly.

Odd country we live in.

F i F

Original Poster:

48,837 posts

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Friday 25th June 2010
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tinman0 said:
F i F said:
600 websites to be closed saving £100 million, probably including the Potato Marketing council lovechips.co.uk
It's not the real world is it? I've just looked at lovechips.co.uk (i never knew it even existed until you mentioned it) - and what a waste.

It really is a strange parallel world these people live in. And how would you ever know if that website was successful or not in its aims?? There's even a Facebook page with a whole 1,400 members. I struggle each year to make my marketing budget, but I've no doubt they have a budget for that website that would make my eyes water frankly.

Odd country we live in.
Obviously as always the devil is in the detail.

On the one hand...

from 2006 Sunday Times said:
When the autumn term starts this week the British Potato Council — annual budget: £6m — will be sending teams into schools to encourage children to sample crisps and eat chips. The BPC even has a dance troupe called the Chippie Dales.

To counter it, the Food Standards Agency — cost: £143m a year — will be campaigning to lower cholesterol and fight obesity which costs the country an estimated £7 billion a year. The organisations have conflicting agendas...
but on the other hand to provide balance
later in same article said:
The BPC, which has 56 employees and has devised almost as many ways to eat a potato, raises most of its money from a compulsory levy on potato growers and seed merchants but also receives £61,308 a year from the government.

It has to compete for attention in schools with the Milk Development Council (MDC), which has seen its staff increase from seven in 2000 to 49 last year, many of them “school milk facilitators” encouraging children to drink more milk.

The BPC has been voted Britain’s most useless quango by a website that monitors public spending. The runners-up include the MDC and the Home Grown Cereals Authority.


and just as a final dig at Labour

When Tony Blair came to power he promised to sweep away the growth of “unaccountable quangos”. But if all non- departmental public bodies are included, he has created another 752. They include the BPC, the Zoos Forum and the Gaelic Development Agency.

ooops.

But then I worry how much of what we hear about sweeping away the 600 websites is actually spin. I'm sure the potato growers would be very happy to lose the compulsory levy of £39/hectare/£44/ha for late payments, but will they? Lose it I mean, or not have to pay it is perhaps a better way of putting it. Don't we import something like 2 million tonnes of spuds a year out of 8 million tpy consumption? We only export about 0.3 m tpy.

So much money wasted on crap I really dunno anymore to be honest.



OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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rypt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
F i F said:
Also 75% of all Govt websites to be scrapped apparently.
I must say I'm enjoying television again since the election now that all the govt propaganda ads have gone.
I dunno, BBC are still there ... though I guess they are now the opposition propaganda ads
I don't watch the BBC news any more, I find a copy of Socialist Worker from 1983 to be more balanced and more informative. At least I don't have to endure those BS CO2 and salt ads. smile

The Excession

11,669 posts

280 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
tinman0 said:
F i F said:
600 websites to be closed saving £100 million, probably including the Potato Marketing council lovechips.co.uk
It's not the real world is it? I've just looked at lovechips.co.uk (i never knew it even existed until you mentioned it) - and what a waste.

It really is a strange parallel world these people live in. And how would you ever know if that website was successful or not in its aims?? There's even a Facebook page with a whole 1,400 members. I struggle each year to make my marketing budget, but I've no doubt they have a budget for that website that would make my eyes water frankly.

Odd country we live in.
Obviously as always the devil is in the detail.

On the one hand...

from 2006 Sunday Times said:
When the autumn term starts this week the British Potato Council — annual budget: £6m — will be sending teams into schools to encourage children to sample crisps and eat chips. The BPC even has a dance troupe called the Chippie Dales.

To counter it, the Food Standards Agency — cost: £143m a year — will be campaigning to lower cholesterol and fight obesity which costs the country an estimated £7 billion a year. The organisations have conflicting agendas...
but on the other hand to provide balance
later in same article said:
The BPC, which has 56 employees and has devised almost as many ways to eat a potato, raises most of its money from a compulsory levy on potato growers and seed merchants but also receives £61,308 a year from the government.

It has to compete for attention in schools with the Milk Development Council (MDC), which has seen its staff increase from seven in 2000 to 49 last year, many of them “school milk facilitators” encouraging children to drink more milk.

The BPC has been voted Britain’s most useless quango by a website that monitors public spending. The runners-up include the MDC and the Home Grown Cereals Authority.


and just as a final dig at Labour

When Tony Blair came to power he promised to sweep away the growth of “unaccountable quangos”. But if all non- departmental public bodies are included, he has created another 752. They include the BPC, the Zoos Forum and the Gaelic Development Agency.

ooops.

But then I worry how much of what we hear about sweeping away the 600 websites is actually spin. I'm sure the potato growers would be very happy to lose the compulsory levy of £39/hectare/£44/ha for late payments, but will they? Lose it I mean, or not have to pay it is perhaps a better way of putting it. Don't we import something like 2 million tonnes of spuds a year out of 8 million tpy consumption? We only export about 0.3 m tpy.

So much money wasted on crap I really dunno anymore to be honest.
Absouletly astonishing. Cheegars on lovechips. Wasn't he last seen in some dodgy nude TV game show with his knob out?

F i F

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48,837 posts

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Friday 25th June 2010
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The Excession said:
Absouletly astonishing. Cheegars on lovechips. Wasn't he last seen in some dodgy nude TV game show with his knob out?
I believe you are right, I was just grateful it wasn't Timmy Bloody Mallett.

TankRizzo

8,024 posts

223 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Milk Development Council? British Potato Council?

School milk facilitators?

Is it really any wonder we are in the cacky?

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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56 people to do PR for the potato - funded through a compulsory charge on potato growers - you mean - like a tax then...

Do we import potatoes? Do those potato growers pay something towards this quango? Or is it just UK grower getting stiffed.

F i F

Original Poster:

48,837 posts

281 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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tinman0 said:
56 people to do PR for the potato - funded through a compulsory charge on potato growers - you mean - like a tax then...
err yep. Like a tax.
tinman0 said:
Do we import potatoes? Yep, 2m tpy about 25% of the Uk market

Do those potato growers pay something towards this quango? Not afaik
Or is it just UK grower getting stiffed. yep
Don't know how big your operation is but as you said, give you just a small % of that marketing budget and would it bring tears to your eyes?

Bloody dance troupe, I ask you.

The Excession

11,669 posts

280 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
The Excession said:
Absouletly astonishing. Cheegars on lovechips. Wasn't he last seen in some dodgy nude TV game show with his knob out?
I believe you are right, I was just grateful it wasn't Timmy Bloody Mallett.
Worse still, some stoopid thought this was a good waste of money.

I'm utterly stunned, potato growers in the UK taxed to provide this drivel and pay for some has been to run around the country going 'aint chips brilliant' (or was that the milk crowd?)

God's breath, I'd feared it was bad...


ukwill

10,237 posts

237 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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musclecarmad said:
I know someone who says the police have just been told they are immune from paycuts and they will continue getting payrises but they're trying to keep it hush hush. Doesn't sound true to me
A middle-eastern looking guy dropped his wallet on the tube this morning. I picked it up and gave it to him. He thanked me and quietly said to me not to get the <insert some form of public transportation> on the <insert random future date>, and quickly walked off.

smile

Oakey

27,982 posts

246 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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F i F said:
tinman0 said:
F i F said:
600 websites to be closed saving £100 million, probably including the Potato Marketing council lovechips.co.uk
It's not the real world is it? I've just looked at lovechips.co.uk (i never knew it even existed until you mentioned it) - and what a waste.

It really is a strange parallel world these people live in. And how would you ever know if that website was successful or not in its aims?? There's even a Facebook page with a whole 1,400 members. I struggle each year to make my marketing budget, but I've no doubt they have a budget for that website that would make my eyes water frankly.

Odd country we live in.
Obviously as always the devil is in the detail.

On the one hand...

from 2006 Sunday Times said:
When the autumn term starts this week the British Potato Council — annual budget: £6m — will be sending teams into schools to encourage children to sample crisps and eat chips. The BPC even has a dance troupe called the Chippie Dales.

To counter it, the Food Standards Agency — cost: £143m a year — will be campaigning to lower cholesterol and fight obesity which costs the country an estimated £7 billion a year. The organisations have conflicting agendas...
but on the other hand to provide balance
later in same article said:
The BPC, which has 56 employees and has devised almost as many ways to eat a potato, raises most of its money from a compulsory levy on potato growers and seed merchants but also receives £61,308 a year from the government.

It has to compete for attention in schools with the Milk Development Council (MDC), which has seen its staff increase from seven in 2000 to 49 last year, many of them “school milk facilitators” encouraging children to drink more milk.

The BPC has been voted Britain’s most useless quango by a website that monitors public spending. The runners-up include the MDC and the Home Grown Cereals Authority.


and just as a final dig at Labour

When Tony Blair came to power he promised to sweep away the growth of “unaccountable quangos”. But if all non- departmental public bodies are included, he has created another 752. They include the BPC, the Zoos Forum and the Gaelic Development Agency.

ooops.

But then I worry how much of what we hear about sweeping away the 600 websites is actually spin. I'm sure the potato growers would be very happy to lose the compulsory levy of £39/hectare/£44/ha for late payments, but will they? Lose it I mean, or not have to pay it is perhaps a better way of putting it. Don't we import something like 2 million tonnes of spuds a year out of 8 million tpy consumption? We only export about 0.3 m tpy.

So much money wasted on crap I really dunno anymore to be honest.
One of the Directors of Potato Council Ltd was also a Director of Bensons Crips as well as a host of other crisp type businesses.

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Oakey said:
One of the Directors of Potato Council Ltd was also a Director of Bensons Crips as well as a host of other crisp type businesses.
I think we can forgive this guy for the apparent conflict of interest!

SLacKer

2,622 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th June 2010
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I love the recipes page

  • fish and chips
  • pasta and chips
  • pie and chips