BBC News website style guide
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-10730698
BBC daft quiz said:
Q4:Sarah Palin raised eyebrows when she urged Muslims to "refudiate" plans for a mosque. The word is a corruption of "refute", but what is the original meaning of refute?
WRONG! It's to disprove. The BBC News website style guide says it "is best used ONLY to mean 'disprove'. So do NOT say 'X refuted the allegation' unless you know unassailable proof was produced. Use deny, dismiss, reject, etc."
Why would the 'BBC News website style guide' know? - and what is it?WRONG! It's to disprove. The BBC News website style guide says it "is best used ONLY to mean 'disprove'. So do NOT say 'X refuted the allegation' unless you know unassailable proof was produced. Use deny, dismiss, reject, etc."
OED:
2. trans. To prove (something) to be false, esp. by means of argument or debate.
a. To rebut an opinion, theory, claim, etc.
b. To disprove an accusation, imputation, etc.
3. trans. To prove (a person) to be wrong.
4. intr. To demonstrate error. Now rare.
5. trans. To reject (an allegation, assertion, report, etc.) as without foundation; to repudiate.
Criticized as erroneous in usage guides in the 20th cent. In many instances it is unclear whether there is an implication of argument accompanying the assertion that something is baseless (making the use sense 2).
Frankly I get a bit sick of people whinging when the meaning of words changes, or is changed. Without such behaviour we'd still be speaking in Old English, and if you think that Old English is "Ye Olde Shoppe", then think again.
2. trans. To prove (something) to be false, esp. by means of argument or debate.
a. To rebut an opinion, theory, claim, etc.
b. To disprove an accusation, imputation, etc.
3. trans. To prove (a person) to be wrong.
4. intr. To demonstrate error. Now rare.
5. trans. To reject (an allegation, assertion, report, etc.) as without foundation; to repudiate.
Criticized as erroneous in usage guides in the 20th cent. In many instances it is unclear whether there is an implication of argument accompanying the assertion that something is baseless (making the use sense 2).
Frankly I get a bit sick of people whinging when the meaning of words changes, or is changed. Without such behaviour we'd still be speaking in Old English, and if you think that Old English is "Ye Olde Shoppe", then think again.
Edited by Parrot of Doom on Friday 23 July 14:01
Parrot of Doom said:
Frankly I get a bit sick of people whinging when the meaning of words changes, or is changed. Without such behaviour we'd still be speaking in Old English, and if you think that Old English is "Ye Olde Shoppe", then think again.
This reminds me of the advent of digital TV. Ceefax cancelled as it came from the News Department to be replaced with BBC red button from Culture and Media.
Has the News now moved too and been given a 'style guide'
All big news organisations have a 'style guide', to ensure that their output is consistent.
For example:
BBC: http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsstyleguide.pdf
Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide
For example:
BBC: http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsstyleguide.pdf
Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide
Parrot of Doom said:
Frankly I get a bit sick of people whinging when the meaning of words changes, or is changed. Without such behaviour we'd still be speaking in Old English, and if you think that Old English is "Ye Olde Shoppe", then think again.
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ad551 said:
All big news organisations have a 'style guide', to ensure that their output is consistent.
For example:
BBC: http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsstyleguide.pdf
92 pages For example:
BBC: http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsstyleguide.pdf
What's wrong with telling it how it is?
tomw2000 said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Frankly I get a bit sick of people whinging when the meaning of words changes, or is changed. Without such behaviour we'd still be speaking in Old English, and if you think that Old English is "Ye Olde Shoppe", then think again.
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There is evolution of language and pollution of it.
saaby93 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-10730698
She surely meant "repudiate"BBC daft quiz said:
Q4:Sarah Palin raised eyebrows when she urged Muslims to "refudiate" plans for a mosque. The word is a corruption of "refute", but what is the original meaning of refute?
WRONG! It's to disprove. The BBC News website style guide says it "is best used ONLY to mean 'disprove'. So do NOT say 'X refuted the allegation' unless you know unassailable proof was produced. Use deny, dismiss, reject, etc."
Why would the 'BBC News website style guide' know? - and what is it?WRONG! It's to disprove. The BBC News website style guide says it "is best used ONLY to mean 'disprove'. So do NOT say 'X refuted the allegation' unless you know unassailable proof was produced. Use deny, dismiss, reject, etc."
re·pu·di·ate/riˈpyo͞odēˌāt/Verb
1. Refuse to accept or be associated with.
2. Deny the truth or validity of.
Or is this me having a Whoosh moment?
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