I know it's the Mail - but Christ.....

[anonymous-user]

[redacted]

[V88Dicky]

Absolutely shocking.

[paddyhasneeds]

Mail said:

Hayes has repeatedly offered to plead guilty to the charges in exchange for a life sentence but these have been rejected by prosecutors.

Does the jury get to know this?

[Magog]

Not even going to read that article...

[tinman0]

Read that earlier. The story should be shown to everyone against the death penalty. Absolutely sickening.

[MiniMan64]

paddyhasneeds said:

Mail said:

Hayes has repeatedly offered to plead guilty to the charges in exchange for a life sentence but these have been rejected by prosecutors.

Does the jury get to know this?

By the sounds of it that's pretty irrelevant as they are going down no matter what. I'd imagine that the prosecuters are pretty determined to see this one through all the way given the nature of the crime.

[paddyhasneeds]

MiniMan64 said:

paddyhasneeds said:

Mail said:

Hayes has repeatedly offered to plead guilty to the charges in exchange for a life sentence but these have been rejected by prosecutors.

Does the jury get to know this?

By the sounds of it that's pretty irrelevant as they are going down no matter what. I'd imagine that the prosecuters are pretty determined to see this one through all the way given the nature of the crime.

Oh of that I have no doubt (and no qualms), I'm just curious if offering to plead guilty can be used as evidence against you.

[tinman0]

paddyhasneeds said:

MiniMan64 said:

paddyhasneeds said:

Mail said:

Hayes has repeatedly offered to plead guilty to the charges in exchange for a life sentence but these have been rejected by prosecutors.

Does the jury get to know this?

By the sounds of it that's pretty irrelevant as they are going down no matter what. I'd imagine that the prosecuters are pretty determined to see this one through all the way given the nature of the crime.

Oh of that I have no doubt (and no qualms), I'm just curious if offering to plead guilty can be used as evidence against you.

Nope it can't. And I doubt deals are disclosed to a jury either as it would prejudice the case instantly.

[Blue Meanie]

tinman0 said:

Read that earlier. The story should be shown to everyone against the death penalty. Absolutely sickening.

And they will counter with a story of someone freed from death row on DNA evidence or some such. An appeal to emotion is not useful.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-tho...

Edited by Blue Meanie on Thursday 16th September 19:07

[El Guapo]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

They use lethal injection in CT
It is quite likely that Connecticut is going to abolish the death penalty before long. Best get these two scumbags dealt with ASAP.

[tinman0]

El Guapo said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

They use lethal injection in CT
It is quite likely that Connecticut is going to abolish the death penalty before long. Best get these two scumbags dealt with ASAP.

Can't help feeling these two just put the anti-death penalty lobby back a good few years.

[Blue Meanie]

tinman0 said:

El Guapo said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

They use lethal injection in CT
It is quite likely that Connecticut is going to abolish the death penalty before long. Best get these two scumbags dealt with ASAP.

Can't help feeling these two just put the anti-death penalty lobby back a good few years.

Why?

[mybrainhurts]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Getting a bit tired, isn't it...?

[172ff]

mybrainhurts said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Getting a bit tired, isn't it...?

Nope!

Disgusting, vile dirty paper full of spite and bile IMO.

[mybrainhurts]

172ff said:

mybrainhurts said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Getting a bit tired, isn't it...?

Nope!

Disgusting, vile dirty paper full of spite and bile IMO.

You're very sensitive...

[eldar]

Blue Meanie said:

tinman0 said:

El Guapo said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

They use lethal injection in CT
It is quite likely that Connecticut is going to abolish the death penalty before long. Best get these two scumbags dealt with ASAP.

Can't help feeling these two just put the anti-death penalty lobby back a good few years.

Why?

If (and its a big if) the evidence is as clear cut as it appears there will be no doubt about the guilt. Then the perception they'll be out in 10 years (however inaccurate). Tough on crime, and the economics. Plenty of ammunition there.

[Blue Meanie]

I don;t think the evidence, or the crime would sway anyone. Did no-one look at the list of people freed from Death row? It;s not the clear cases that are the issue, it's the ones where the people are innocent.

[Pothole]

mybrainhurts said:

172ff said:

mybrainhurts said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Getting a bit tired, isn't it...?

Nope!

Disgusting, vile dirty paper full of spite and bile IMO.

You're very sensitive...

you seriously defending the stty fascist rag?

[Randy Winkman]

tinman0 said:

Read that earlier. The story should be shown to everyone against the death penalty. Absolutely sickening.

It says "They face the death penalty" - but they still did it (we assume).

[eldar]

Blue Meanie said:

I don;t think the evidence, or the crime would sway anyone. Did no-one look at the list of people freed from Death row? It;s not the clear cases that are the issue, it's the ones where the people are innocent.

True... but. They are discounted though by this sort of aparrent clear cut case. Of course the nature of the crime sways people, there are degrees of murder. FFS there were people here invoking the death penalty for putting a cat in a wheelie bin!