School porn plot man given 12 years
School porn plot man given 12 years
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bigandclever

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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the news said:
A handyman who ruined a school caretaker's life by planting child pornography on his computer has been jailed for 12 years.

Neil Weiner launched the "wickedly evil and vile plot" hoping to get Eddie Thompson sacked so that he could be promoted.

Weiner, 40, was convicted of perverting the course of justice and two counts of possessing indecent images of children at the Old Bailey.

Judge David Paget told him: "What you did to a decent and honest man was in my view wicked. It is difficult to imagine a more cunning, deceitful or warped course of conduct than yours in this case, or a more malicious one."

The court heard how he sent police a CD containing indecent images of children saying they came from Mr Thompson's laptop.

Hundreds more pictures were later found on the computer and the caretaker was arrested in October 2006.

He told police he had been set up by colleagues who did not like him but it was eight months before he was told no further action would be taken.

When the details of the allegations were leaked by Weiner to a local newspaper, Mr Thompson and his wife became afraid to leave the house, after he received threats and they were spat at in public.

Even when he returned from suspension to Swanlea secondary school, in Whitechapel, east London, where he had worked since 1993, Mr Thompson said he was shunned by nearly all the staff, making his life "almost unbearable".

"My life and good name was nearly destroyed by a villain who tried to destroy my reputation in a monstrous manner," said the Scottish-born caretaker, 62, in a victim impact statement read to the court. "This must be the work of a depraved mind."
What a tt.

Benten

702 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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what a weiner

stitched

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203 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Not that I mind the sentence, I don't. But does it not seem a bit odd that setting someone up as a kiddy fiddler carries approximately ten times the jail time as fiddling with kids?

TEKNOPUG

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Sentence was for perverting the course of justice I'd imagine.

kVA

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Sentence was for perverting the course of justice I'd imagine.
Sorry to pick on you, mate, but why do people post on threads without even bothering to read the OP properly?

Original Poster on this Thread said:
Weiner, 40, was convicted of perverting the course of justice and two counts of possessing indecent images of children at the Old Bailey.

stitched

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Sentence was for perverting the course of justice I'd imagine.
Partially, he was also charged with having nasty pictures.
Just find it a bit odd that this bloke was sentenced to serve a lot more time than most actual fiddlers.
Actually more sickening than odd.

TEKNOPUG

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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kVA said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Sentence was for perverting the course of justice I'd imagine.
Sorry to pick on you, mate, but why do people post on threads without even bothering to read the OP properly?

Original Poster on this Thread said:
Weiner, 40, was convicted of perverting the course of justice and two counts of possessing indecent images of children at the Old Bailey.
I was referring to the length of sentence being mainly due to perverting the course of jutsice rather than the possession and distribution of images

stitched

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
kVA said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Sentence was for perverting the course of justice I'd imagine.
Sorry to pick on you, mate, but why do people post on threads without even bothering to read the OP properly?

Original Poster on this Thread said:
Weiner, 40, was convicted of perverting the course of justice and two counts of possessing indecent images of children at the Old Bailey.
I was referring to the length of sentence being mainly due to perverting the course of jutsice rather than the possession and distribution of images
Got that, however the sentence was longer than most actual kiddy fiddler sentences, which has me fuming.
I'd rather the pain from perverting the course of justice was secondary to being a pervert with kids FFS.

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Wicked man. And not in the good way...

EDLT

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236 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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His mind is warped in such a manner that he has a subscription to the Daily Mail.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

220 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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A nice long sentence! Need more judges like that!

10JH

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224 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Thanks God they caught him, otherwise the innocent man's life could have been a lot worse.


remedy

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221 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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10JH said:
Thanks God they caught him, otherwise the innocent man's life could have been a lot worse.
Exactly, I think the judge had to set an example here. The caretaker could have been wrongly banged up and his life ruined through no fault of his own. From what I remember, it was only a fluke that this guy got found out - bragging about it I think? Any other circumstance and the caretaker wouldn't have had any chance of proving his innocence.

bigandclever

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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More detail in the Telegraph now...

Torygraph said:
Jurors heard that Weiner, a computer "wizard" who worked at the school as a handyman assistant, was arrested in 2007 after a mobile phone used to make an initial anonymous call to police about Mr Thompson was traced to him.

Richard Milne, prosecuting, said the child pornography on the caretaker's computer was planted by Weiner "for no better reason than to get him the sack so that he could get promotion, and because he did not like him".

Some of the images were level 4, the second most serious.

"He was being fitted up or framed on his computer," said Mr Milne.

The prosecutor told jurors that others who found out about it were "horrified by what you may think was a wickedly evil and vile plot".

Weiner, a married father of two from Dagenham, east London, was convicted in August of the three charges he faced, each by a 10-2 majority.

Today he was given a 12-year sentence for perverting the course of justice plus a total of five years for the two child pornography charges, to run concurrently.

The judge told Weiner that his plot to have Mr Thompson sacked and prosecuted very nearly succeeded.

Police had been careful not to make public their arrest of the caretaker and only informed those at the school who needed to know, he said.

"But you gratuitously and spitefully informed the local press so that he and his wife suffered the distress of the unwelcome publicity which followed."

Mr Thompson's health and that of his wife suffered.

The judge said: "There are still those who believe, and probably always will, that he is a paedophile. I am wholly satisfied that Mr Thompson is innocent.

"Your reason for trying to ruin Mr Thompson in this way must have been simply that you didn't like him. You must have hated him with a vengeance."

Weiner had discovered the caretaker's password by looking over his shoulder one day and been caught doing so.

When Mr Thompson was asked why he did not change it, he said he wished he had, adding: "Who in their worst nightmares would could have thought that anyone could stoop to do what he did?"

The judge said there was no evidence that Weiner was a paedophile but his conviction for possession of the images meant that he had to be placed on the sex offenders register.

He told him: "You will go to prison for a long time. The prison population is not renowned for being particularly fair or reasonable.

"You will be suspected by many of being a paedophile and, like Mr Thompson, you may find that you suffer, both in prison and on release, for the rest of your life.

"All these consequences will last for life and the irony is that you have brought them upon yourself by your own deliberate conduct."

The judge had previously said that Weiner's crime was "as serious an offence of its kind as I personally have ever come across".
So even the judge thinks that karma is going to come round and kick his head in.

Randy Winkman

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219 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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stitched said:
Not that I mind the sentence, I don't. But does it not seem a bit odd that setting someone up as a kiddy fiddler carries approximately ten times the jail time as fiddling with kids?
But what would have been the result if he had been successful? The victim suffered badly enough as it is.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
stitched said:
Not that I mind the sentence, I don't. But does it not seem a bit odd that setting someone up as a kiddy fiddler carries approximately ten times the jail time as fiddling with kids?
But what would have been the result if he had been successful? The victim suffered badly enough as it is.
Exactly.

And I would like to say fair play to the police who had both the diligence and integrity to thoroughly investigate the accusations and not just write the case up.

petemurphy

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213 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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just goes to show there should be anonymity for people accused of such stuff

12 years seems a bit harsh though

Mojocvh

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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petemurphy said:
just goes to show there should be anonymity for people accused of such stuff

12 years seems a bit harsh though
Sorry but disagree.

ShadownINja

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312 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Scary. Agree with the anonimity until found guilty. Dropping the p bomb on someone like that has (mental) people already finding you guilty before the prosecution has had a chance to have it proven you are guilty.

Edited by ShadownINja on Thursday 23 September 22:44

petemurphy

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Mojocvh said:
petemurphy said:
just goes to show there should be anonymity for people accused of such stuff

12 years seems a bit harsh though
Sorry but disagree.
12 years is more than most rapists and murderers get - yes he should be punished severly but 12 years? what is it about 50k a year to keep prisoners??